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Ok. Um, can you tell me your grade level and, um, your age during that time? Um, so I was a senior in high school and I was 17. Ok. Um, can you tell me what school or area you were from? Well, I'm from Santa Rosa and

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the school I went to was OCL in high school. Ok. Um, can you tell me what was your living situation looking like uh, before the fire? So, like who'd you live with? Um, yeah. Well, I, yeah, I was living in a park at the time. Yeah,

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I was living in the park and I was living in an apartment complex. Um, were you living with like your mom, siblings? I was living with my sister and her boyfriend at the time. Um, do you remember how you learned about the fires? Like, oh, like

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when it happened? Yeah. So, um I get woken up like it's like 3 a.m. and then, uh I get a call from my brother saying go outside. It's a look, a look at the sky and then basically it was three AMI woke up and the sky

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were red and it was just, you can see that something was going on. So I knew I knew about it right away. Ok. But like, ok, so you, ok, so like, I literally knew about like, we're like one of the first people to actually see it.

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And like, actually, because there's, the fire is actually pretty close to a park if you went more like towards north or south, but you can, you can see it. Ok. Yeah, because some people like received like text alerts and then they were told to evacuate and

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stuff like that. So you were like you saw, we saw it, we left before every like before like the actual Amber alerts happened, we left before that anything happened, if everyone was like announcing stuff. So we saw that. Yeah. Oh wow. Ok. Um uh What were

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your feelings and emotions during? Well, in your case when you saw literally like the fire? Uh uh Honestly, I thought it was pretty crazy because the first thing I thought was like, I thought about my friends and stuff cause they, most of them did live closer

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to apart than I did. So I was kind of worried about them cause my family were all with me at the time when that happened because we all were like, we were already like leaving Sonoma County. We're going, we're going to, we're actually going to stop

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them where it's very like clear, but I was just more worried about my friends cause most of them didn't have rights or anything or I was just, I was worried about my friends. They say like that I was worried about them more than I was about

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myself. Ok. Um, like, but did you leave with your family? Like all of you guys in one car type? Well, my mom came and picked me up and she took me with her and her boyfriend, my sister decided to stay, but I left. Ok. Um, can

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you tell me what kind of student you were before the fires? Like, how was your sleep schedule? Your academic engagement, your grades, any of that? So this is actually a good question because I'll say before the fire, I didn't really try in school and didn't really

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like care. And then when the fires happened, we, we, for our school, we had two weeks off. So we were able, I was able to kind of like reassess my life where I was in school and I was able to catch up a lot of work

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that I was that I didn't do. You know? So those three weeks that I had off from school helped me in a good way because I, that, that ended up actually helped me graduate high school. So it, it's sad to say like a was a, was

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a terrible thing to happen. But for me, it really helped me to like, it got me to graduate. It was actually beneficial for me, which I, I'm sad to say that, but it really wasn't a. Mhm. Yeah. Um, but overall, like, your sleep did not get

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affected at all. Even, like I say, yeah, I would, I would stay up longer after the fire thing happened. I stay, I stay up later than I did before. I was, I used to sleep, like, maybe at eight and after the fire happened I'll sleep, like,

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around 12. Yeah, it changed my sleep schedule a lot. Um, so LC Allen, did it burn? Like, did it burn? No, we, uh, fortunately for us. LC was, uh, way farther from a fire than the other schools around us. Yeah. Ok. Um, so what was it

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like going back to school after the fires? Oh, but that you graduated? No. Yeah. No, no, no, no. But I didn't graduate, like, right after the fires, like, I did go back to, I did go back to the fires. I didn't go back to school after

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the fires. It was kind of sad because a lot of our teachers, like, a lot of our teachers, uh, houses were up in the hills where the fires were happening. So, like around 10 people lost their 10 teachers lost their homes. So it's very sad for

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them. So we kind of came back to teachers who kind of weren't motivated to teach their stuff and like, there was, everything was just bad because just like most of my teachers I had were the ones that are like the true victims of the fire. So,

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they, they went back, they went back to work. Yeah, they went back to work. They had to, they're obligated to go back to work because it's, you know, that's the way the teacher life is. Like, they're obligated to go back to work. So, it was just

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sad because you can, you can tell that they weren't the same person, especially like those teachers that, you know, are always positive and happy and always trying to do things. You know, they were, they were the opposite. They're always sad. They always, they were just like,

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not motivated to teach anymore. So it was, it was just sad to go back to school because the atmosphere from teachers overall was just a lot different from when I first started there because remember I didn't say this in the beginning but OC was, it was

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my first time being there and it was my last school too. So when I went in, when I went to the school, it was amazing. Every teacher was cool and stuff. But when the whole fire thing happened, it was just, it just went downhill for the

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teachers. Yeah. Um Did you notice that about the students too though? Like everyone's mood was just kind of down or like there wasn't that motivation to even be there? I, I'll be honest with you, my school, the students I went with kind of were like clowns

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like class clowns and stuff. So most of my friend group took it as a joke to be honest, like they were just like, they were like, I hope this happens again. So we have another three weeks off, you know, type stuff. So like, it was kinda

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like, I, I hung out with like some childish, very like childish people but the people like I, because I, I'm one of those people that I would notice things like around me. So I know that the students were always like, look be looking down and looking

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like sad and stuff. So I noticed like other students took it very hard but the friend group I was around, they took it as a joke to be completely honest with you. So, but I noticed I noticed that the the the energy in the atmosphere was

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just everyone was done. The people I was around was just like, fuck, you know, it sucks. Yeah. Um Well, if you can, if you can and if you remember, like, can you walk me through like some of your initial reactions even walking through the school again?

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Um I was kind of like I was nervous because I think I, I was kind of like nervous to see like who wouldn't show up and who it kind of affected. Like I was just kind of like nervous because like I said, nothing really like happened

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to me like where it like changed my life negatively. Like the fires kind of benefited me, which is like, which is crazy to say but like I was just more nervous about the my friends and stuff like which, which close friends were the ones that really

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affected. But all my friends nothing really happened. So it was more, more like classmates, you know, that went through that stuff cause you can notice how people are from three weeks when that fire happened versus when we came back. So I was just more nervous. I

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was like, oh you know, I don't wanna like, am I gonna have to like be tell someone it's OK or tell someone like, you know, everything will be all right. Like I thought I was gonna be like that one person for my friends but no one,

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no one really went through it like that. Yeah. OK. Um Let's see. So you talked about it benefitting you because you got to graduate. Um Did you see any besides that? Did you see any like emotional distress that you went through? What's that or like mental

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health issues surrounding? No, honestly like the, I'm sorry, I'm really excited to say this. Like the really helped me like, so I got to graduate because I was, I was able to catch up on all the work I didn't do and then I was able to

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finish my classes because they literally took off like maybe three, like half a semester worth of like work and stuff. So it literally took that off. Like everyone they gave, everyone is, you know, and then, and financially we got, we got more money out of it

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because my mom used to work for a retirement home. But that retirement home she worked at was kind of like, kind of like high grade. Like they, they, like, they, everyone paid for their, the elderly to move to a whole different place where, like, the fire

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wasn't being affected. So my mom lost her job for, like, a week or two but she ended to find a job that paid even more money and it was even closer to the house. So my mom wasn't as tired and she got paid more. So, so

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the fire has really benefited our family a lot more than it did others. Mhm. Yeah. Oh. Um, so when going back to school, um, and the remaining months from that school year, how did your teachers staff and other, uh, school personnel help make this process easier,

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or? Like? Yeah. How did they support the students or? So, from what I heard, uh, a Allen was actually one of the only schools that opened up their gymnasium for people who lost their homes to live in. So we didn't have a G for a while

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because people were living at the G. So OC Allen was actually like one of the main supporters of the fires, especially for the firefighters when they're, like, tired of like, you know, trying to stop fires and they need to face the rest. They came to OC.

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And so the, yeah, the friends I had were really the best but the people who ran the school and the students who actually took things serious did a really good job on supporting families that didn't have, like, they didn't have anything anymore. The staff was very

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positive even though they went through some stuff. So, so overall, the staff students were amazing and they were just trying to keep everything positive because most of most of the school was really affected by it. So it was more positive because they're just like, you know,

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you know, everyone goes through tough times, you just gotta stick together and then, and they did. So overall took it very seriously and just wanted to help. Um, let's see. Well, you touched on your peer relationships. So, like your friends' experiences and you said that no

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one really lost, like, lost their homes, right? Like all my close, close ones. No, they really didn't. Um How do you think your friends impacted your experience in coping with the stressor if any? It was amazing because, uh, one of my best friends, I got actually

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stay with my best friend, Brian for three weeks. Brian, I know I gotta stay with Brian for three weeks. So I was really living with Brian for three weeks straight, which is one of the, one of the best three weeks of my life cause we're just,

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we're just messing around having fun and then we, we weren't supposed to be driving but we were driving around town cause it was, it was clear. No, no one was driving and stuff. So, oh I hate, I'm sorry to say this but like I know the

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virus was a very tragic thing and it was, it was very tragic but I didn't really have nothing negative really affect me, but it did affect me in a positive way. So I gotta stay with Brian. Like, honestly, I was getting tired of living with my

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family and I won't lie. So I got, so staying with my, staying with my best friend called me cope with like, like the fires helped me graduate. That's what, that's the thing I can say. It helped me graduate. It helped me like rethink about my life.

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It helped me refocus and my mental health was better out there. So it really helped me in a good way and Brian was living like close to the fires were the fires. Yeah, Brian was living very close to the fires but he, like I said, like

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he, it wasn't, he wasn't like taking seriously, but he was just like the fires ain't gonna hit us. You know, nothing ain't gonna happen. You know, you can just stay here with me and I did and nothing did happen. The fires never went past. Uh thankfully

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it didn't go past the, the hills that we live by. So it stopped before it hit us. So, um, Brian lived with his, his mom and his grandma. Ok. Um How did your daily routine change after the impact of the fire? Um Was there fears of

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the fire coming back? Were you like paranoid? Um, I was, I wasn't, I wasn't saying paranoid but I was waiting for it to happen again because this, what the way I see it is it like I don't think about myself in this situation. I think about

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the people who really been affected. So I, I think that every, literally every October I was like, oh it's, it's gonna get dry and start another fire gonna happen cause I like it's sad. It's just, it's sad losing everything that you own, everything that you work

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for and everything just to disappear within seconds, you know. So that, that was just very tragic just to like feel that every October like is it gonna happen again? Is it gonna happen? I wanna say, I wanna say because I wasn't one of those people like

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I prepared for it. No, I was just like I better not happen because that I just was hoping it wouldn't happen. Yeah. And especially you like how you didn't even know of the fire because of alerts but like you literally saw it. Yeah, it was crazy

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because like my brother called me and he called me like 10 times like he's like, bro, wake up because something's really happening and then because my brother woke up like at midnight. So he saw, he saw this guy turn red. So he's just like trying to

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wake up all our siblings, my mom and like trying to get everyone out of there. So we didn't even get ember alerts. We didn't get ember alerts until we were in Stockton. So people were really stuck and they were hitting traffic. We had no traffic. So

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you, you went to Stockton but then we're living with Brian. No. Ok. So the reason why we came back is to be honest with you, I didn't want to be with my mom and my brother and, and my, and her boyfriend and the place we went

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out, I was literally bitching at them the whole time. I'm sorry to say that, but I really didn't want to be with them. And I told my mom you came with Brian's house, nothing's gonna happen and she was really freaking out about like what is the

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fires hit you? I'm like, I will save my life. It's ok. Um So, uh originally we were gonna stay in Stockton for the three weeks but I told her, hell no, I'm not gonna stay in Stock. Do you guys have family over there? Uh, at the

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time my, my mom's boyfriend has family that's everywhere to go. Yeah, I think we do either way. But, but you want to stay with Brian. I wanna stay with. I know like I was dead set on staying with Brian for those three weeks. I did not

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care what he was gonna tell me. My sister would be like, come home to us because they had the, the, the, the, the air purifiers, they had, they had it in their house so they used to stay there. So you got uh taking the smoke and

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Brian's version of the air purify was a fan in the window and pull it out. And so that was our p fighter but we were young, you know, so we think about it. So we're in heavy smoke and stuff. But yeah, I stay with Brian most

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of the time. Do you know? Well, um you probably wouldn't know if Brian got alerts about it. His family got alerts about it. Oh, he definitely did. They just didn't care. Oh, they definitely did. But like the way his mom, I know his mom and his

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grandma very personally. So they're like if it hits us, it hits us. Oh wow. Literally like his mom went to work though and his grandma went into work still too. And so the only person that didn't really do anything was, was Brian because we didn't have

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anymore. So they went, they were like living normally cause they were like if it hits us, it hits us, they will deal with it. They're more like if it happens in the moment, which is kind of crazy to say. But I knew I knew they wouldn't

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like, they wouldn't be too crazy. Like the, like the house is on fire but they weren't really taking it completely seriously cause they're like, it's not that close to us, even though it was cause it was on the hills. They were just like we'll handle it

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when it happens. So do you think Brian would want to interview Brian? Yeah. Yeah. But he'll be, he'll be a lot more funnier about this than me. Oh my God. Let's see if you will. Um Let's see. Um You kind of touched on it. But was

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your family affected financially? Um about like groceries even um your mom you mentioned was out of work for a week but then got a different job. Um Yeah, I think you should comment on that. So my brother was living, living with my mom and he was

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able to, he had a job where people were like, so during the fires, his job and so like he works, he used to work for a company called Dr Kings and they used to just help deliver shit that no one wanted. But during the fires, they

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use their company to actually deliver food. So by the end of the day, there will be so much food where they'll bring uh he'll bring food back to the house, but food wasn't an issue. Um Yeah, my mom used to work at a company called Fort.

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We used to take care of people. Unfortunately, they're more like a high end type of, uh, uh, retirement home. So they took all their, their, uh, their, their elderly and found a better place where it was air was cleaner and stuff. But that left my mom

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out of a job. Thankfully, her boss is like, I know another place that she doesn't own but she knows the owner put a good word on my mom because my mom was working for them for almost 20 years and then got the job instantly and they

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gave her even a raise and stuff over there. So she got paid more and it was closer to the place she lived in. So there's no more commuting. So she, her money got for uh she got boosted up, she found a place and she ended up

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living with her after the fires. I gotta live on, I gotta get, I gotta get my own room. Uh, we got, we got paid more as a family and uh my brother made sure we always had food. So, but he was to give a big hope

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too because he helped deliver other food to other people. It's just the end of the day, there was too much for them to throw away. So they gave it to the employees. But yeah, so I was kind of benefited in a positive way as far than

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most people were. Um, after the event of a fire. Have you set a disaster plan or like any safety preparedness in place? If this were to happen again? To be honest. Um No, I don't even know how to drive. So I'm screwed if like I get

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abandoned cause I'm like, you know, I'll just died in the fire to be honest with you, but I don't know how to drive. I don't have any plan. I don't know where to go. I'm just gonna hope someone of my contacts takes care of me. I'm

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not, I'm not been for it. I'm, I've never been like that because I've been through, I've been through many other situations in my life. So I've never really been one of those people to be like, let's plan for the future because I'm more of like, let's

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live in the moment, which is not like it, it can be a good and bad thing, but in those situations, it's a terrible thing because it's bad to live in the moment, especially when the disaster is going on. I'm, I'm not prepared for the next one

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that, that really does happen. I'm not, well, I suggest you do honestly. Um, yeah, we haven't even put any safety things or anything like that either. So kind of in the same boat. Um What would you say was the hardest part about this disaster and why?

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Um honestly, the, the people around you, even though they're one of your friends it's hard seeing people go through stuff like that. I, like I said, like losing, losing basically everything you own and just seeing it just disappear. And I've seen, uh I, we, we me

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and my friends will visit like the, the, the what, what happened and it just sucks because like, I guess it, it looks, it looks like dust but most of the, most of the dust is like people's family photos, their belongings, some heirlooms from like the past

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or like things that have been passed on for generations just gone in a second. So it was sad, especially in Santa Rosa cause I know a lot of people who lost their homes, they weren't close friends, but at the same time, not an asshole would be

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like, I don't care for them. I do care for it because it's like that just sucks cause I didn't get affected by it and they didn't. So I was, I was just like, why did, why did they deserve this? You know, but it was just a

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sad overall aura being in Sara Rosa because majority of people were affected by it. And it just sucks because it's just like, imagine I always, I always, I always do this. Like imagine if that was you. It it's just a terrible feeling overall like damn if

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I ever lost his dog in the fire, not Rocky, I'll be, you wouldn't see me for a year. I'll be disappeared because it'll be a tragic, I'll use that as an example if that happened to me and I lost Rocky, I'll be devastated. Um, let's see.

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Oh, and like, the people that were, like in the gym at LC, did you see them? Did you like, or was it, like, closed off? It was closed out. But you knew they were in there, like, the, the, my school took things very seriously and they're

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very professional too. They just be like, you can't go in there right now. You know, we're not using the gym and then unfortunately most of the seniors were very immature. So they're like, what about, what about our, our senior graduation, blah, all this and that like,

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uh like the gymnasium, that's when we would need that stuff for certain things. And then you had the mature students were like, you know, calm down because you don't know what's going on because, and it was, it was, it was 50 50 when it came to

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the senior, the senior class. I feel like the younger class, the freshman to juniors took it more seriously. All of them versus my senior class cause I'm telling you my senior class was full of clowns. I say that respectfully because there, there are a lot of

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them are my friends but like, they didn't take anything serious. They came back and they were just laughing about the fires versus other people were like crying about it. So it was just it was just very, um, it was overall very, just the people I was

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around weren't the best but, but I didn't put myself in that category because I understood it was a very tragic situation to go through, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Um, if you had it to where you live the disaster, what would you do differently, um, or would

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you do anything differently if, so what, I wouldn't go to Stockton, that's for sure. I would have just went with Brian right away. Uh-huh. I was just, I would have just hung out with Brian. Just stuck in. I was just stuck it out there because nothing

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really did happen to us. But at the same time, like I would have just stayed with Brian all the time because I think this is how it worked. Maybe I stayed like, maybe three days with my mom and then went with Brian for like two weeks

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and I had to come back home. I think I would have just stayed with Brian all three weeks would have made it just, it would have made it way more better, way more, just overall positive for me. Just, I think it would have been better, would

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have benefited me way more than it did now that I read it. But that's the only thing I'll change. It's just that, what else? Let me think about something. Maybe I think if I had the chance I would have volunteered to help people out too. I

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have volunteered because I didn't know what was happening. I was, I, I was with Ryan. I Brian and me and him could have done stuff to help you out too because I knew people were helping out through, like, on Snapchat stories and stuff. But same time

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I didn't really do nothing. So, I think if I, if I was in the, in that, like, right now with the mindset I have now, I think I would have, I would hope the thing about it, like, this was three or four years ago. Yeah. Yeah.

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So, yeah, I wasn't really as mature as I am now for more. P, in 2017, 2835 on math major. I was a, I was a sophomore, sophomore. Yeah. No. Yeah. Like my family and I went to the fairgrounds here in and all the donations. It was

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just, like, so o overwhelming and you would just see, like, the little kids toys, like, everyone would just drop off and stuff or like the little kids clothes and stuff and it was just, I don't know, it was just sad. Mhm. It was though because when

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you just see, like, and it's, it's kind of a beautiful thing too when you see everyone come together. But I still feel like I still believe we're, we live in a time where, like, race and things is like a factor in people. But when something tragic

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happens, like, that no one even looks at color. It's just like we need to help each other out. That's what, that's the cool thing you see about. The cool thing about what tragic is, bring you bring the people together at the end of the. There we

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go. Um, an overall broad question. What did you, what would you say you learned about the fire? Um Damn. Um I think that year I just realized how like how terrifying fires really could be and how fast it can spread, even if it's like a low

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fire, like it just how it expands and then how, how thankfully we've been having rain, you know, like not having rain. This is a real big factor of why we had the fires to begin with. So I know most people complain about how it's been raining

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lately, but I believe it's a good thing. It's a very good thing because our chances of, of, you know, burning up again is very, very low now. It just, it, it's how you see that, you know, even if it's raining a little bit, it's not, it's

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not a bad thing, you know, we shouldn't be, we shouldn't be crying about it. Cars are very dangerous and it can really change someone's life for the worst and sometimes even the better. And, uh just, I think everyone should be somewhat prepared. I'm not gonna be

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one of those people like you have to have like a whole plan B but like, just someone just prepare for the moment and like, and like, honestly, if nothing happened to you just help out, help out other people who have been through that. So, yeah, there's

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all that stuff. Great. Well, those were all my questions.