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Sonoma County. A diverse county of over one million acres. It's famed for its agriculture, industry and recreation, boasting a booming economy and unique lifestyle for its citizens. Described by the same Luther Burbank as the chosen spot of all the Earth, Sonoma County is the place to

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live, work and play as we move into the 21st century. Led by the forward looking philosophy of its governing bodies, Cinema counties, 340,000 residents are, Ah, harmonious, successful blend of ethnic and economic backgrounds. We invite you to take a closer look at Sonoma County in the

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nineties with your host Rich McGlinchy. Hello again, everyone. Welcome to a very special edition of Sonoma County in the nineties. We wouldn't be talking to two gentlemen who are really, really a very important part of this community will be talking to On the left you screen

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doctor room in Avignon A who is the president of Sonoma State University and in the center in the middle as always, Dr Robert Grella, the president of Santa Rosa Junior College, Bon human with this once before, it was a pleasure to have you back. And Dr

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Leana George, you're talking depressed recently and, uh, and was looking forward to this visit. You know, I don't need to belabor the obvious, but you both represent two of the institutions that the county is proudest up. The junior college has a tremendous long history. I told

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you a while ago I graduated junior college. Unfortunately, Dr Armen Yonas college was not yet in existence. This was way back in the Dark Ages, but just does please me immensely. You have the two of year because I'm sure the audience is enjoying this. I'm gonna

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ask a couple of questions of you, Bob and a couple of you got You're beginning your third year on the right is right of center junior college. Um, how If it is, how is your perspective to call it different than it was two years ago? Three

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years ago? Well, I think coming into the college, I knew I was coming into a substantial institution with the reputation that it had and really fine community support. I think if it if it's different in any way, I think I even underestimated the the the institution

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from that perspective. And I certainly underestimated the level of support in the community. It's just been absolutely phenomenal. And I think part of my job and certainly what I've been trying to do is maintain that level of commitment that this community has had and that the

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colleges had to the community. So it's been a pleasant surprise to me. Teoh have undervalued that coming in. I would jump ahead to one question here. I want to be sure to get Yes, both of you. This, um, increased fees for public higher education have certainly

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been on everybody's mind. And good Lord knows this students. But since the governor and legislator past this recent budget Now first, let me ask you, what are the increased fees mean to centers of Jaycee and in Dr Rubino asked you That s a first to Jason

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for the community, for the JC in particular, effective January 1 will see the tuition rate going to $10 per unit with no cap so that students will will play will pay the flat $10 regardless of the number of units that they take. If they take 15

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units is a full time student, they'll be paying 150 so forth big change. In addition to that one will be the differential fee so effective January 1. Students who have a baccalaureate degree or higher will be paying $50 per unit of instruction. So we truly anticipate

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that that will be having a great effect on the enrollment. It's a major, major jump, and we we suspect that that will will have a major play on our enrollments. I went to college, Dr Rubin. Our fees went up $372 a year, which now is about

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$1400 per year for our students. And even though that was a very substantial increase is still it is the best bargain education in the United States. If you look at where the California State University fees are compared to about 16 grating other public institutions which are

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similar to us like City University, New York or soon etcetera, we are second from the bottom in cost of the studio Onley. Texas is cheaper for the high quality of education the students receive that they pay about 80% off because of education. It's a great bargain.

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I'm not sure that's going to continue like that, and I am suspect saying the years to come students will pay even more percentage or the cost of education coming closer to what the nationwide averages, which is anywhere between 25 30%. You know, just recently we talked

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to both county level officials and state level officials, and I must admit they're both very pessimistic about 93 94 being any better than 90 to 93. Do you see it? There were two. No questions on 93 94 will be as difficult this year. Our budget went

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down by almost $4 million this year. In the past 36 months, we have lost over 20% of our general fund revenues and money who come from the state. I suspect that next year is going to be another five or 6%. I don't see the economy in

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California rebounds ing as quickly as we hope it would be, and to be under there still very serious a structural problems in our economy who have not been resold. Therefore, we're in for release another tough year. So you know something? When we started out, we could

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have taken the currency getting a little background about the two of you we started with you, Dr Robert Umbrella. So tell us where you from. Where do you go to school? So forth? I'm a product of the Midwest. I'm from Chicago, Illinois. Originally? Yes. And ah,

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went to school in the Midwest. Primarily. I actually majored in engineering and mathematics. Never thought that I 1000 years. Whatever you I I always thought that the problem is the engineering field has passed me up now, so I'm not sure that I have that capacity any

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longer, But I can go back, I think, teach mathematics, but actually a product of the Midwest. I'm really the first graduate of ah college or university in my family since then. I'm happy to say that there have been some but, uh, 1st 1 in our family

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and worked in the Midwest for a while, both in business and industry, and then went into education as a as an individual who kind of got into education into teaching in the back door when a time was where National Science Foundation grants were available to actually

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get engineers into education. So that's how I started. And I've stayed with it and it's been 25 years now, and I've been very fortunate throughout my career. Teoh be really in the right place at the right time. As I told you earlier today, I talked to

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a lot of people having graduated from the school, and they really pleased to have you here. They say that he had a good group go before employed Bailey, new women Roy and Michael Michaelson, and they said, Robert ago is just ah, perfect successor to that group.

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Dr Ileana, give us a little background about you. Well, I'm a problem yourself because you can't tell by my sewing accent south of legibility of the border. There am originally from Cuba, and I came to United States in 1961 2 years after the Cuban Revolution as

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a result of the Cuban Revolution and living Florida for a while. But most of my life I have lived either in Calif Inning California for the past four years. But before that in Louisiana and Texas, I graduated from University of Texas in Austin. I mean economists

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in my 1st 2 degrees and a political scientist from my PhD, which is came from University of New Orleans and different from Bob, who has being in one area. I have really had a varied career. My mother says. I just got a job for more than

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five years, but I have Bean uh, hey, starting academia but winning the government. I was an assistant to the mayor of New Orleans, winning the private business in international trading of commodities, being a news reporter and after all of that, decides that my place really wasn't

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education. And back in the 83 King back, vice president told a university and four years ago a vice place of Cal Poly Pomona and since about eight weeks ago here in almost a year. Well, you know, uh, aside here for a moment he was our speaker

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to Press Club, which I helped form several years ago and were enjoyable speaker on my dad and after was over. He's asking for questions, and I remember asking, and I said, Well, you know, I really enjoyed what you had to say, and I thought what he

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said much of it was very profound, and I said it seemed to me that he would just be a splendid addition to say, no state college mommy question was, Are you planning to stay away? And I don't wear very skimpy here. Both my wife, Marni, and

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I, you know, they talk about God's country, but I think we have found it in a way, have been very well received. The school is a good school, in good position, excellent students. And the facts of there's this relationships that exist between the junior college and

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sort of my state makes it a unique possibilities under for yes, we plan to stay. This is this is home Well, and they verify. Excuse me. He verified that to me privately. One of the things that we've been able to do in in in a short

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period of time here is get together on several occasions to people who work for you. Carrie Campbell prices your public relations, and Barbara Foot terror is yours. Uh, what? I talked with him and he said, Oh, my own means, get him on together Said they seem

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to get along beautifully and they complement one another. So I said, OK, that's a great yes, we like each other way. I don't think that doesn't make a big difference. Doing, however, is good and we talkto each other off. All right, let me go over here

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to you. Dr. Home in una ss Huge image in the in recent years in the community has improved really improved tremendously. Now, where do you see the campus going? As it continues to serve the North Bay in the 19 nineties and beyond. Well, definitely when I

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think you put it very well. We look ourselves at the University of the North Bay and you know, we are the public institution. Once you crossed the Golden Gate on the Bay Bridge, right all the way. The humble state, we cover a very large area with

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Sacramento being our nearest for indeed, we see ourselves a service to this entire six or eight counties which are very large. We see ourselves very much an Injun off technology for this area, and we will indeed be servicing very much involved in community affairs. For instance,

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we will be hiring a new being in the college of business very soon, as Jeff Doubt is returning to the faculty and there will be major input from the come from the business community in this election off that d some things. I have not happened before.

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You're about our users celebrating your about your 30th year now. Various year. We, uh yes. We're not us all very much going to get you in. You're a member of this community, but we are 30 years old. When I got to get over here to my

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friend problem here for a moment to, um Donna, this all down. And you're celebrating your 75th anniversary next year. Um, I think it was a student body of about 18 back in 1918. That was florid failure. And the student body now is about 35,000 for over

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a decade, courses and all that. Um, but the same as we asked Dr Rubin Naminohana, What does the future hold for this? R. J c. The good old bear cubs? And what changes in curricula or programs do you foresee in the future, I think we'll we'll

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continue to grow rich. You know, 35 or 36,000 students is a very, very large institutions. Mere fact it puts us at about the fifth or sixth largest institution at the two year level in the United States at the present time. Yeah, way are present planning is

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that we will probably continue to grow at about 2% per year. That will be dependent little bit on the adult population growth of Sonoma County, but probably 2% per year. So the rapid growth that we saw for a period of time at the institution, particularly in

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the mid eighties early to mid aging eighties, will probably leveling off to about 2% with that growth, however, where we have an impacted campus, obviously a very beautiful campus in a very substantial campus. But its impact were built out about as much as we can possibly

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build to be built out there. A zoo. You know, we're bringing the Petaluma Center online that will be opening hopefully in the fall of 94. I say hopefully because we've got Fortunate Teoh to see what the weather is going to be like during the construction period

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of time, but that are planned opening time there that will have the capacity for about an additional 5000 students. We're currently looking at moving the number of our health careers programs to ah facility that we own in Windsor. We're also looking at the relocation of our

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criminal justice training sign so the coming years will see, I think, continued growth and continued addition to our facilities to handle some of the current programs. And in terms of future programs, One of the major pushes that we have is to really take a look at

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internal, internationalizing our curriculum and and what that will mean to our curriculum itself. We're always looking at how we can assist economic development within Sonoma County and particularly at this point in time with the economy, where it is what we can do to try and assist

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people, to get repositioned, retrained and trained to perhaps enter the workforce for the first time or re enter the workforce after having been laid off or lost their job in whatever capacity. We're gonna pause here right now for a message from the station, but I want

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to think that had noted here was it. The county is extremely fortunate to have the sun rose a JC, a cinema State university here. Thinking about this we'll talk about when we come back is how many students go to the both of them, and then how

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money transfer from basically from 10 resident U. S. A few legend gentlemen, Dr Rumen Germany, under the President's Sonoma State University. Dr. Robert Umbrella, the president of Santa Rosa Junior College, and I will return. Talk more about these two fine institutions. First, this part e couldn't

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been doing this show for about 22 years. Come November and It was the best kept secret in Sonoma County for a long time, but in the last several years, way have gained your support, a good audience. And this is one of the more interesting programs I

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believe that we've had in a long, long time. We're talking to Dr Ruben Amon Yana, who's the president of Sonoma State University. And Dr Robert A. Gorilla was the president of Santa Rosa Junior College. And when we left, we said, We mention to the gentleman that

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the public feels real pleased that we have these two great institutions here. Um, either of you might answer this or both of you talk about it. How many student, rather Hominy, some kind of residence attend J. C. And then also Cinema State. Well, in terms of

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actual numbers right into 35,000 range snowmen, county residents attend actually come come to several, uh, how many people local people, you say. Would you think come down? We have a total enrollment about 7600 students, off which 40% 3200 come from Sonoma County and the other another

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40% come from six counties surrounding you know, Napa and Marine medicine on Lake. Therefore, we are truly very much of a local institution serving a local community while you also mentioned earlier Excuse me. You also mentioned earlier that your college is the only one north of

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San Francisco. Do you get the humble spate, which really gives you a tremendous areas and responsibility right now? What about one of the question? How many students? As far as you know, Bob, go from J C two SS. You were actually the largest feeder institution to

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SS you. So from that perspective, I think were important to S S. U and S s. U is extremely important to our student body. So I think the relationships there are very, very important to maintain the last figures I saw in which were the for the

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full year 1991. We haven't gotten the 91 92 figures showed 456 students during that year went to Sonoma State University and our total enrollment at at the present time or total number of students who went from S. R. J. C and our current were enrolled in

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an SS in 1991 where was approaching 1300 students So we have a considerable number of students who go from S. R. J C to Cinema State, and that's a unique opportunity. Who are student who lives, you know, in this area can finish the entire delegation, you

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know, going to the G A C and coming here and literally within four miles of each other. That's unique in most cities, especially in an area which is, you know, half wrong have urban. You find that more in a and both our public institutions, where they

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can do that at a very reasonable price. You know, I've had a lot of work students, and that's everything through the county. Information off several quick fuse and I for years have said, Why go elsewhere unless you really got one or two students occasionally who have

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to go someplace else for For some particular course, I said, You've got one of the finest junior colleges in the land here, and you have one of the Sonoma State University developing into one of the finest universities. You can go from kindergarten through you through your

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higher education in your own county. Uh, why would you really want to go outside all sorts of young people like to you away, but but really makes tremendous sense. And we are lucky County, I think, don't you? No question about it, but let me give you

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another point. My budget this year is approximately $45 million I suspect uses were 50 55. That's $100 million off direct expenditures that we spend in this area. If you multiply that by about five because money turns around, you know you get your paycheck and you buy

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food at the grocery store and you pay your mortgage. There's what we call economists call a multiplier effect. I'm because we're highly into people, a minimus in most five time. That's half a $1,000,000,000 a year we represent for these area. Imagine this areas without their college

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or Sonam estate without that. All right, a couple of questions more here. Dr. Herman, you know, you've been quoted as saying that by supporting an educational institute with dollars as well as energy and services, the return can only be a benefit to all society. Can you

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give us a few specific examples? One other things that California needs and we have become terribly aware of that in the last year is good taxpayers. People through an education, get good jobs who pay sufficiently toe pay taxes. One of that we have in our population.

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At this moment we have lots of population, which is the younger area age who do not pay taxes and people in the older age who do not either They're retired, etcetera, for what other things have a university. Those has create the future in terms off taxpayers.

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Secondly, it's a qualitative measure, you know, and I have a little experience with bad governments. Having come from Cuba, etcetera, in my area of expertise, is locked in America. The best insurance for a democratic society is an educated society. Therefore, the investment said we make in

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education is probably the best investment you can make. And I'm not talking about gift and talking investment, which is a conscious decision on an expected return. And we're good places to invest. Absolute. You're like I couldn't anymore if we could. Just if we could wishful thinking,

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educate each human beings through the college level, our world, our civilization would be such a lovely place. I mean, we all have more compassion. We have more understanding. We have more ability to place yourself in the other person's role. We have more unity, are sometimes breaks

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your heart. How many students can you currently handle? It? This orgy You send your 35,000 using. Okay, but how many can you currently handle? Maximum. Oh, I suspect we could handle a little bit more, given our current facilities. But has I mentioned before? We're bringing some

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additional facilities online, primarily in Petaluma in and Windsor. And, uh so our growth potential is there. I couldn't give you an exact number, but But one of the things that the college is always done very, very well is look ahead and be able to plan ahead

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for the growth that it anticipates. And I think we've done a good job in here. What can you see is a future enrolled. Oh, I based on that 2% figure, you know that to 2% 0 yeah. I think we'll hit 50,000 very, very easily. If you

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look out into the future will be above that. How many are there right now? 7600. What do you look forward, units? Not our master plan calls for topping out at 10,010 students. I think it will take cause a long time to get there because the resource

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is are not there. For instance, this year if you, based upon our resource, is our target and Romans, who have bean more like 6000 students. But we have taking another 1600 for which the resource is are not there but where delivering instruction means larger classes mean

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a lot more difficulty. Therefore, I was just not a physical problem. I think in the same way you are, it is really every source problem. Unless the state is willing to contribute larger portions that they did this year. We are closing doors to students who are

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qualified to be there, and we want them to be there. Two questions here I'm happening to abruptly jumped from one the other or not really, you know, digest all the things you just said there, but one of things. I want to get injury in about four

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minutes we have left. Santa Rosa J C students have benefited for years by the prestigious Doyle Scholarship. When we were talking about the founder that earlier, are there other scholarship programs available. That's our Jaycee's please. We have a wide range of scholarship programs. Course Doyle really

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overshadows anything that that is seen at the college in terms of scholarships or really anything that scene in the state and almost in the nation. But in addition to Doyle's, we have the other foundation scholarships. We have a number of scholarships that are given by local

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businesses in the industry as well as private contributors. What we call in and out scholarships. That, coupled with the other financial aid programs that we have, really means we're approaching about $6 million totally with respect to scholarships and financial aids, which are being needed even more

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now, as has been mentioned with the increasing fees and the need for individuals to have the capability to go back to school. Um, Dr Harmony Ana scholarship opportunities as well as meaning for him Ah, I understand, are at an all time high in this issue. Our

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academic scholarships awarded its no state university, uh, many live are base upon merit, and many other are based upon a combination of merit ever need. Over 60% of our stealing receive some form off. Eight. Either be state aid or federal and state aid or scholarships, which

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is very high. And the need for that our situation is increasing becomes saving higher. Also, 80% of our students work. Some of them work a full time job and go to school full time. You know, I have to take off my head to those people who

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have that level of motivation and that ability to handle two very demanding careers, both at the same time. This isn't terrible. Um, we got a couple moments left. What cooperative measures have been taken by S. R. J C. And this issue to accommodate the needs of

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local students were talking a little bit about this impacted by budget cuts, uh, thus perhaps limiting access to your institution. What actions are we taking? Teoh? We are increasing scholarship. What are we doing? Well, I think the first I think cooperation between institutions, I think, really

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begins at at the highest level of the organization, first of all, So I have to say that Rubin and I cooperating together, I think, sets a tone within the institution which are extremely important these days. But we have we have affected articulation agreements we not only

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meet together, but our faculty and our administrative staffs are meeting together. When we knew that Snow Estate would be paring back some coursework in English mathematics, a number of other areas, we were looking at our course offerings and how we might be able to to assist

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really assist the residents of Sonoma County to meet their needs. In a sense, we planted when you're equal another second week. Larry, what curriculum offering together. And we because our highest priority are they are to ability to accept all of the transfer students from the Santa

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Rosa genetically for in reality, you talk about two institutions, but almost a single plan when it comes to offer. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Thank you. Dr. Rubin. Dr. Robert, this is the Are a show room in Avignon. And Dr Robert Umbrella. Anything done?

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We've been talking to Dr Herman Yana, the president of Sonoma State University, Doctor of Greller. The president centers junior college. I'm gonna ask them to come back with us in a few months and talk more because we just scratched the surface. My name is Richman, 19

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to programs to know McCann in the nineties. I'll see you next week with members of the county government, family or other fine institution such as our to find college is still in. Good night. Good luck. Good health. Each and every one of you.