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Sonoma County, a diverse county of over one million acres, is famed for its agriculture, industry and recreation, boasting a booming economy and unique lifestyle for its citizens. Described by the same Luther Burbank as the chosen spot of all the Earth, Sonoma County is the place to

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live, work and play as we move into the 21st century. Led by the forward looking philosophy of its governing bodies, Cinema Counties, 340,000 residents are, Ah, harmonious, successful blend of ethnic and economic backgrounds. We invite you to take a closer look at Sonoma County in the

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nineties with your host, rich McGlinchy. How you doing? Everybody welcome to the new McCann in the nineties on location. As you know, we usually bring you our program from Post Newsweek studios in Santa Rosa. However, thanks to a nice invitation from Wolfgang Rimouski, the owner chef

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corner, I should say of Rivers and Resort and to our producer recently, Mattis, they've arranged for us to be in this beautiful spot. We're gonna be talking in just one moment to Wolfgang Gramatica, easy owner and chef here. But before we do that, we'll tell you

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a little bit about the place it's located right at the mouth that Russian rivers matter, facts, any hair You could look at the mouth of the Russian beautiful spot. Scenic It could be. It's a beautiful forced on a restaurant, lovely cocktail lounge and their vacation housing

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facility right here that also part of the resort. Now I think it's time we talked to the power who's in charge of this and who was kind enough to buy this up here. Wolfgang, that's just you, and nice to have you. It's a real pleasure to

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come up here and thank you for inviting us. You've been here. How long now we 18 years. 18 years back to 1974. Yes, we can actually 1974. We came out on vacation. We visit my sister, little cousin Derry. She was living and they took us out

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to the rivers end. And so we had our clam chowder and some hot dogs and beautiful sunset. And on the way back home that's what's for Sale said, Wait a minute. What do you call this restaurant? Don't you know it's rivers and his end of the

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river. So and been foreign back. I've been victor in New York were living in New York at the time. And, uh so we bought it in 1970 and of 74. We moved in. And, uh, what is it? What was it like that talks a little bit

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about it? Waas It was a little a little greasy spoon on, uh, hot dogs and pinball machines. And a little there are food store people from the area came and bought some food, and and my boss from New York actually came out while I still was

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in New York and checked it out. Is that No, I don't know what you get into it, but but I have confidence you're gonna make it. So we have to be. And what was it like? Physically? I remember you were telling us earlier that it wasn't

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really on the level, you know, it was the baby moved in. It was already a approximately three feet from one. Enter the restaurant or the other one was its refit difference in the floor, and people walked in and and they thought that they had already too

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much to drink, and it was slanting. And while you were sitting on the bar at the bar more less the real wind less for sliding down to the other end of the restaurant that you had to hold it so to keep it in front of you.

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This place has a marvelous reputation. Certainly has a four star Robert, and I think that's thanks to you. You're well known, chef all over the Western United States, and I presume Eastern do if you worked. What about your facilities for staying over? There are some cabins

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are yes. This this place was built in 1926 with cabins and little beach ours and camping and boat launching. And it was like a first resort in Jena and doing our time. 18 years slowly, slowly be rebuilt. The main building. And we did work on the

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little cabins. They all have nice small decks and their cozy and people come from all over the world to stay here. Yes, we have met my life, and I am, I tell you, don't visit here frequently and enjoy it very much. And I can I can

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honestly say it's one of the finest eating places in northern California. If you haven't been here, I think something that you should definitely do make it a point to visit River Gen one. I don't think I want to ask you When are you open? I know

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you're not open all the time during the winter, actually a closing a few picks a week after Thanksgiving and during the winter season like everybody else traveled. So was doing his things, because in the summertime we worked very, very hard. We open seven days lunch and

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dinner in the summertime, and so we're closed from Thanksgiving till Valentine's Day. Valentine's days are opening day. Okay, okay. And it's all very, very successful. Be open up with it. A special dinner and people make year already reservation. And and so in the off season, we

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open Friday citizen Sundays and till about Eastern. And then we opened up five days lunch and dinner, and then we go into seven days. I'm just making a note to make my reservation for trying. Let's see you later. We're gonna be talking to your bar manager,

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Joseph Lucy, among other guests. One of the reasons we're going to talk to Joe is is fascinating habit of taking his vacation and visiting other worlds or other lands, and we're gonna have him talk to as many final things you want to say about Rivers. And

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I think it's a fascinating place way that Long Joe and all the other employees, a long time Everybody loves it. It's, um I think it's a very, very special place. Usually, restaurant owners are getting burned out after after 56 years, and I still love it. And

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I'm cooking many, many times. Most of the time we have the three chefs in the kitchen helping me and have a nice crew, very relaxing atmosphere. And our goal is whoever comes in this door goes out happy. All the tests of that we've been here many,

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many times. Wolfgang, First of all, thank you for taking a few minutes to visit with us here. And also thank you for inviting us to rivers into host. Are some county in the nineties program. We'll be back in just a moment. We're gonna talk to Farma

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Energy Joseph Losey, who has an interesting story to tell about how he spends his vacations. First, this message after dating the guy forever. You think I could tell him anything? I realize this so hard. I'm really scared. It takes a lot of guts to tell someone

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who's too drunk to drive, but you can do it. Just say it because if you don't maybe nothing left to say Kevin, I'm gonna drive, Take the keys, Call a cab, Take a stand. Friends don't let friends drive drunk. Welcome back to Sonoma County in the

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nineties, on location. We're bringing this program from Rivers End. This is a beautiful spot. Located about 1/4 of a mile north of Jenner. It's right at the mouth of the Russian River and just a beautiful place to be one of my wife's and mine favorites. And

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thanks to a kind invitation from Wolfgang Rimouski and I produce it, Theresa McManus. We are here, and we're going to be talking to a member of the staff here, but for a different reason. We'll be talking to Joseph or if we made job. Christy and Joe

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has been the bar manager here for Wolfgang for many years, but he has another very, very fascinating habit. When time comes to take his vacation, he doesn't go to a summer resort or stay home and watch television. He gets himself off to a foreign land that

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has been doing this. And he told us about this a few years ago, and I thought it was quite fascinating. I think something you would like to know about, Joe. Nice to have a doing business. Yeah, And I remember we talked about this for some time,

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and I think people I don't know. What about Joe, Lucy and, uh, what he does? Um, First of all, you were born and tell us a little about you. I'm born and raised in San Francisco. I grew up there, went toe grammar school, high school, college,

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University, and then ended up here in 1975 or actually in Granville, 14 miles on river. Been here ever since We kind of reason for. That's about 17 years. Yeah. You're, um I wanna ask this what prompted your San Francisco by birth and by and an inclusion

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as a So my wife is. And I know most people are very proud of San Francisco of it. But what prompted your move to a concern? Dylan's candy? Well, when, uh, as a child, we'd take our vacations up here, come to Granville for two or three

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weeks in the summer and, you know, lay on the beach in this a mountain. And in the early seventies, I was I was been down South America for about a year and 1/2 traveling around, and I came back and I was broke. So I my family

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had little cabin up here and my sister was living in there. She invited me up to live, so I thought I just move up here just for a while to like, back on my feet. I've been here ever since I look best place I've ever been

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in the world. It is right here. It certainly you know, you told us about this before. This is what prompted us to want to talk to you more when you're a little kid. Used to sit at the ocean in San Francisco. And what's the ships? And

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then about 18 or 19. You did something about a car? Tell us those two little stories. Well, when I was a kid, I used to be on the beach in San Francisco and are on the Bay and Aquatic Park, and I'd see the ship's going in

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and out where they going? Where they're coming from kind of interested me. Then, when I was about 18 I was saving some money to buy a car wanted by a Porsche, which was happening car. And then I thought, Wait a minute. I've got all this money

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now. I had about $1200 which was a large sum of money in those days for 18 year old kid. I like that. I could get the car anytime. One. And I just fulfill one of my dreams. Go pop off somewhere So that I took my first

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trip in 1964. I got a A ship from New York to England, or she went down the drain and got that. I got that later. Oh, that's great. That's a festival. Flags. Probably people sitting out there wondering. Now you've got the by manager here and you

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work. I know what's going told us. You're open about nine or 10 months a year, and you have a couple of three months. What do you take? Trips to foreign lands? That's just a fascination with new things. Different languages, cultures, people, foods, you know, different mountains,

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different lakes. So on and so forth. Just just I find it very interesting. Yeah. So that's why I take off. You find that's a very best use your vacation time. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, like, I can always pop up and go skiing. Trek annoys, you know,

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go here or there. But to go someplace different is you know, I have the opportunity because I have the time off. And that's what I That's what I do. All right, that leads us into this question. Since you've been doing that for many, many years, where

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all have you visited over the years? I've been, ah, lot of places I've been all over forced North America, South America. I've been to Europe several times. The northern part of Africa. Uh, Central Asia. One time I took a trip from Europe to Central Asia, Afghanistan,

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Pakistan, India, Nepal returned. And then a few years ago, I went over to Southeast Asia and visited a Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia. What were the impressions that you carry with you from visiting? Let's say Asia or in the area or juniper Mexico. What are some of the

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things you've seen or ever fascinated you about it? Well, I think the age is the most fascinating because it's so. It's so different. You know, the people are different foods, air different. Just what? You can't understand any of the languages. Of course, you have to rely

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on the sign Language must need a lot of strange thing. I eat a lot of stuff that I have no idea what I'm eating, but you have to eat them. It's part of what about one thing you told us about before I thought was fascinating. You

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said, you hitch type across. There's a Hera now. How did you do that? Well, I was trying to get a ship to South America. I've been in Europe, and so I was going all through the ports of the Mediterranean. But down through Spain and someone toy

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that the best plus place to get a boat to South America was from the Canary Islands because all the ships that leave Europe go there to fuel up for the run across Atlanta. So I hitchhiked from Morocco through ah, across the Sahara. You know, just one

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part is the Sahara at to a little town called El Ayoun, in what was then known a Spanish Sahara took a little light playing up Canary Islands. So I spent three days on the back of a truck carrying grain and potatoes or something like that. That

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was very interesting. Uh, you also hits, like, from San Francisco to Cape Horn. Hits I God rides. And what have you tell us? A little about that. Well, that's somebody. Always one I'd always wanted to see. Tierra del Fuego. And so, uh, one day said, Well,

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might as well go now. So I just might, with my girlfriend, who later became my wife. We just left San Francisco and started hitchhiking. And what? It took us a year and 1/2 to get down there and back, and it was incredible. Um, would you advise

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young people who might be watching your program to follow your pattern in traveling well, I wouldn't advise people to do what I did. I just This is what I'm comfortable doing. If if anybody has an inclination to travel or to see another culture or people or

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some like that, go for it, just like on TV, just do it. Yeah, you know, because it's wonderful. It's the best education. Get you have a 10 year old daughter. Has she had intent to travel or you will. I've taken her to Mexico once, and she

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loved when this is about five or six years ago, she loved Mexico, but she doesn't now. I say, Come on, let's go to Mexico or let's get because no one that I want to be with my friends. But perhaps when she gets a little older and

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a little more worldly, I like her. I'd like to take her to some places that that I have, like, you know, throughout the world. Particularly European Lecter introducer, some European cultures. Joe, it's a pleasure to have you here. I had to have had you here. We're

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just about on a positive from home. But later demise. Want to point out something that Joseph Lucy does it? Maybe many of us think about doing when it comes time for his vacation. He has a couple months. He masses his money goes to a foreign land,

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learned about something about the rest of the people we share this world with. And that maybe a darn good idea for many of you young people that want to do that, Joe. Thanks a 1,000,000 for thank you. Thanks for having me here? Yeah, It's a pleasure

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knowing what you do with those vacations. All right, Well, I hope I turn some other people like Joseph. Lucy is our guest, and we will be back right after this message with another guest. Thank you. All right. Colleen

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has waited 20 years for this bus. Now, thanks to the Americans with Disabilities Act, wait is over. Welcome back to Sonoma County in the nineties, on location. We're here at the beautiful Rivers End resort, which is about 1/4 of a mile north of Jenner overlooking the

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mouth of the Russian River. Really happy to be here. One of our first shoots out on location. We've been talking to individuals that we feel would be interested in knowing about knowing what they do. People we feel are not only interesting with their own selfish and

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the gentleman we're about to talk to serve you No exception. Whole Gary. We know. So, uh, this fellow has been with us a time or two before from our studios in Santa Rosa. But we feel that he's always were talking to for a couple of reasons.

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He holds a full time job. Pretty county of Sonoma. He is the deputy zoning enforcement officer for County, but he also monitors almost full time to be a instructor. I guess you'd say you can correct me if I'm wrong for the Office of Emergency Services. He

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goes out and tells people how to prepare for an emergency. Because in your for emergency comes, we're gonna have about 72 hours in which we have to take care of ourselves Once again, she can't. We get saying nice to have you here. Uh, why don't you

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tell us what prompted you? First of all, you were a park ranger, and then you became as only enforcement officer. Now, what prompted you to volunteer all the time? Well, for many years I've been part of the search and rescue organization. Back in the little Pete

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Piturca days, Pete was running the Oh, yes, and I was involved with that to a degree, and they were having difficulty getting enough people to go out to give programs to the general public about preparing for any type of disaster. Sonoma County and Pete, Course me.

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As you remember, PD's, we're going to coursing people to do things. And he coerced me into taking some courses of the state. Oh, yes, Level and prepared me for giving presentations to the public. So for approximately eight years now, a little over eight years, I've been

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going out to the church, groups, schools, anybody who will listen and give my message of preparedness for persons, families and individuals. If we go back to the peak protracted days, we know that people not only cajole, persuade, threaten, or any other thing he could to get

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you to do what we needed you to do. And he certainly did a great job on you. Got to doing things that we're really very, very important. Because I have heard your talk. And I know what you tell people. And I hope that those of you

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who have the opportunity listen to Gary do Listen, because he told you the things that you have to do in case of an emergency. How long have you volunteered like this? You mention the time factor here. Yeah, I did riches about eight years, and I volunteered

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as a volunteer with Oh, yes, I've done some other volunteer work in other places, which is also continuing, but for Oh yes, it's been eight years. Right now, it's a full time employee of this Sonoma County Planning department. What your responsibilities functions Amazonian investigator at the

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planning department and I've go. I go around the county and respond to complaints from the public were like a complaint department of a department store on and we go out. And there's to us for the entire county to go out and try and enforce the local

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zoning codes of the county of cinema. What are your programs about and and who are they for? In this particular case, the programs are tailored for just about any type of group, whether it be churches or schools or individuals. Families. We try and get approximately 20

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to 30 people every time we have, uh, activity like that. It's to gear people to be prepared at any level, whether it be in the home or work or if you travel and the program takes about 45 minutes to an hour, depending on the questions that

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people ask. A lot of times mobile home parks and places like that are very interested in these sort of things, and they can ask a lot of questions and the program has gone up to a couple of hours. Well, I think the older we get, the

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more we realize we need help in preparing for an emergency because when they happened and they have with the Loma Prieta earthquake, the fire in the open hills recently, things that were devastating and thank heaven somebody had done what you were doing elsewhere, and that made

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life very easy. You're not very easy, but easier for some of those victims. Those who did not pay attention or hadn't heard anything like this. Where once I think that suffered the most, that's correct. The people that are in the business of disaster preparedness. Their primary

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function is not so much a response agency, but their responsibility is to try and create a comfort zone for the people to respond to, to have something to fall back on. After the 89 quake, we had a Siris of people asking for these presentations and people's

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memories rather short. About a month of the program started tapering off, but right after the earthquake it was a very active program. Gary. How long do the programs that you stage for the church in the group in a value that will listen. You're sent a long

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ago. How long do they last? Approximately about an hour. As I said, the interesting thing about this is it's It's like being a preacher, trying to go out and spread the good word. Nobody wants to listen. There's a lot of apathy out in the general public.

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People have busy lives and they bills to pay. And and talking about unsavory things such as death and destruction is not always a pleasant thing to Dio. But it's a fact of life. We live in earthquake country and we have to be prepared and we have

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to do something about that. So we did the best we can by getting the word out to those who will listen. We've had two or three major earthquakes within 1969 1 in the seventies. I'm not sure the year on that one. We also certainly had the

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1989 Loma Prieta earthquake. If anybody needs any convincing, they just need to look at our history. We've had floods here on the river. We've had toxic spills. We had the fire in the Oakland Hills last year. We had bad fires or in Sonoma County 25 30

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years ago. So these things are happening every year to it seems like every few years. Why do you have to persuade people to take these measures? Unfortunately, people's memories are very short. Are a whole generation has passed away since the 1906 earthquake and its flattened Santa

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Rosa, Santa Rosa is the only American city to be flattened by an earthquake. The only way you can really tell that now is to go up to the courthouse and look at the display photographs there. And I've incorporated some of those photographs into my presentation that

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shows downtown totally destroyed. And if it can happen once, it can happen again. Course we live on the earth and we're here. But a blink of a wink of time and geologic time and these processes of plate tectonics have been going on for thousands and millions

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of years, if you will. And so 1906 is but a bleak memory. Teoh. Very few people left, and those of us of our generation have no idea what it was like. But it did happen once, and it will happen again. Gary, I know that you don't

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receive a huge stipend for what you're doing, like you received nothing in the way of monetary return. But, uh, do you receive any recognition for your volunteer work? Well, the volunteer program in Cinema County is a very good program. Many departments have volunteers that go out

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and do various and sundry things. We get recognition by plaques and things that are given by the Board of Supervisors once a year, and that's a very good thing to do. That's why most people do these volunteer things for some sort of recognition and personal involvement.

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What are some of the things that you tell the folks in your audience to do? Could prepare for an emergency? Well, of course, food and water is the most basic information necessary, and canned food canned goods start a food storage program. We also say, Say one

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other thing about if you have a safe in your house somewhere, maybe put away a little bit of money. What happens if the A T. M's aren't working and you need fast cash? Were starting to push a little bit of get some silver and you're in

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your emergency supplies because you may not be able to go to the bank and get money, uh, extra foods, foodstuffs off clothing, all those sort of things you would put away in a kit and have somewhere in your house or your garage or someplace you can

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get to them, but the whole program goes from slide. Show why we have the earthquake to repairing and how to do that. I was right earlier when I said for the 1st 72 hours, You can't really count on help from local agency can you has made

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a real serious emergency. That's correct. In every emergency that has happened in recent years, it takes approximately 72 hours or more from the major agencies to get rolling to get organized. Most places do not have large supplies of materials waiting to go to an emergency. They

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have to be acquired in other locations and bring them in. What is the most rewarding recognition you've ever received for your volunteer service? Well, over all the years I've gotten a number of plaques and awards from the Board of Supervisors, which have been very satisfied. However,

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I was nominated and I got an award from the National Association of Counties for my work there. Approximately 80 people across the entire United States that were awarded this award, and it was very, very satisfying to get that. What did the awards say? What were you

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recognized for? Giving your time or what it was before the development of in the presentation of my own program for disaster preparedness for families. Do you do you go to the schools? Also, there are some schools that are quite open to having these programs. What do

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you mean? Some schools are quite open. That indicates that some schools are not open it. Well, I would like to Kuala quantify that by saying that schools are very busy and disaster preparedness is not a high priority item. And unfortunately, our kids are gonna be there.

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Yeah, that is really that shocking. Do you volunteer? Get said you kind of snuck that in a while ago. I didn't want you to Do you think Do you volunteer for anything? Besides, uh, the office emergency services? Well, I have to get this and I have

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been a volunteer firefighter with Rincon Valley Fire District for 15 years, and I would like to say also that my father in law was was an original member of Reckon Valley Fire Department Leonard Lichtenberger. For 35 years, my mother in law was on the board of

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directors. My wife is a volunteer firefighters. You don't have any choice. And my wife recently was involved with the Women's Awareness Week History Week. She's one of fire fires that went over to the school and gave a demonstration. Women can be firefighters, so we have, Ah,

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big background volunteerism in my family. All right, that tells us what you and your whole family have done. But why do you volunteer great personal satisfaction? I enjoy this community. I enjoy Sonoma County. I love the people that are here. I love what I do. And,

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uh, going out before the public and trying to spread the word is is ah, riel satisfying thing to do. And if we can, uh, expand the people's comfort zone prior to a major event than those air less people, what we're gonna have to deal with when

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the event happens, those people will be taken care of. Perhaps you want to give a phone number. How did they better somebody reach you watching our program that would want you to come out and talk to their group about preparedness through the Office of Emergency Services.

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At 5 to 7 to 3615 to 7 to 361 That's correct. And you could mention Gary Green over G A r Y g r E N o u G h. That's correct, right? That's correct. That's just out of time. So I want to thank you. Thank

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you for having me. Well, I want to thank you on behalf of everybody in Summit County. Thank you for not only working a full time job, and I know you do a good job there. I know your boss very well. But second, Danny, for giving almost

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full time to a volunteer status. Ladies and gentlemen, we've been talking with Jaws of Lucy and we talked with Gary Green now and we visited with the owner of Rivers. End from once. This program is coming and we'll be back next week. We will also be

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here in rivers end next week, and we'll be talking to two other cinema countians who do unusual things and things I think you re interested in and people. You certainly want to know. So until the next one and this is next week rather this is Richard

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Gun. She's saying so long. Good night. Good luck. Teach everyone.