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nineties with your host rich McGlinchy. How you doing? Everybody. Welcome to another edition of Sonoma County in the nineties. On this program, we're gonna be talking about something new. We're gonna be talking about the Pacific Coast Air Museum. Now, this is really not brand new. Gary,

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who we know who is going to be with us, tells me that it's about four years old. But like our program in its early years, that's one of the best kept secret since home account. Now, however, Gary Greenoe was, our guest is going to be the

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public relations officer for P C A. M. The Pacific Coast terrorism is going to change all that. In fact, he has already been changing it. Nice to have your brother. Let's see. Again, Rich? Yeah, we've been together a few times. Yes, we're always talking about something

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different. Something else. I gotta tell you. A couple of things about Gary Greenoe. I first met Gary. He was one of our park rangers for many years after he had almost a career and that he became a member of the building inspection department. And, ah, is

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it Inspector in the field? He has also been, on his own time, a volunteer with the emergency services office and a valuable service for them over the years. What do you find? Time to sleep? Well, like my wife asked, the same question went on my home.

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But there's so many exciting things to do in life that when one thing runs out, we move on to something else. Yeah, well and right, if that girl you've always always been busy, it's something that you are interested in. And secondarily, you've always been willing to

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give a lot of your time free to projects you believe in. Thank you, sir, as you to be committed on that. All right, let's get on to this. What is the Pacific Coast Air Museum? The Pacific Coast Air Museum is a group of people who have

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banded together starting back in 1990 only recently have really started getting into the public relations end of the museum to display historic and restored aircraft out at the Sonoma County airport. Uh huh, that's actually did begin a few years ago. Yes, in 1990 there were about

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half a dozen people who had historic flyable aircraft who decided at a meeting at somebody's house. So let's have a museum. It's Sonoma County, after all, there's other agencies and jurisdictions that have one. Why can't Sonoma County have one? And it was a good idea. Uh,

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they worked on and they decided to have it. They laid the groundwork, and little did they know what they were about to create. Yeah, you said you started in 90. And how many six aircraft there Only about six people that were in the museum at the

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time. And that the number of pilots and their aircraft were also only numbered about six Well, today, we're gonna try and be sure that the audience in general finds out more about Pacific Coast Air Museum. It's something you really ought to visit if you haven't. And

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Gary's gonna tell us a little later about when you can visit and probably what you'll see. We may even see depiction of some of the aircraft here. How many aircraft were there at the beginning? You said there were six with a World War Two. What kind

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of aircraft will we cough? It started out with World War Two piston engine aircraft that were flyable and collectible aircraft and historic that they were under private ownership. Now, in 1995 we have approximately 50 aircraft that are registered with the Pacific Coast Air Museum, most of

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which are under private ownership. They're not all out at the Snowmen County Airport, however. Yeah, they're scattered all over Northern California and Nevada. That puzzle for me a little bit. How can you baby party Pearson Home County Air Museum. If they're If they're not here, they

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hear periodically. Well, there is a base. This is a base of operations for the museum. We have the Sonoma County Airport is where we establish the museum members could be members from anywhere and on our open house, which we'll talk about a little bit later. Oftentimes

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they will fly in their historic aircraft to the county airport for display. One of the things that we didn't mention were suggesting a little bit about early what an organization begins. It's very, very difficult to, uh, to alert the public to this unless you really are

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familiar with how to do it. And I was not kidding when I said our program in its early days had a handful of people watching. Fortunately, the handful told a few others, and now we have a moderate good audience. But the army is here from sure

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went through some of the same things. Now you have become the public relations, the volunteer public relations person for P cam. That's correct. Yeah, And what is? I don't know if you judge this town yesterday now, but what will that entail on your part? Well, doing

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that programs like this. So we had a small displayed a here. Ah, a couple of weekends back when we had a new air craft coming to Cinema County. I can contact it all the media in the nine Bay Area counties and got some information out to

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the public that we were available in what was going on contacted all nine counties. That's correct. Through the Bay City News. Um, it's called the Pacific Coast Air Museum. Now, does that mean you're going to be involving people who have aircraft from San Diego to see

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again? Anybody who has historic aircraft that would like to join the museum was more than welcome to and anybody who is outside just interested in aviation conjoined the air museum. As you can probably ascertain the dame, the Pacific Coast Air Museum, We don't collect air. And

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when I was gonna ask you about that, one of the things I was gonna ask you was the purpose of an air museum. I was gonna ask in that fashion, But go ahead and do that on the air Museum is, as I say, we don't collect

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air. We collect air, Gary. There would be extra market, have air from various parts, but I don't think it be too visible to the public. The purpose of any museum is to showcase particular historic items and In our case, it's going to be aircraft the Ah

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stated purpose or mission of the Pacific Coast Air Museum. And I'm going to quote this because I want to get this right from the public is to promote the acquisition, restoration and safe operation and display of historic aircraft that is the stated mission and purpose of

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the Pacific Coast Air Museum. Let's put a little levity in here again for a moment. I can't just Ian Air Museum with about 10 different boxes. You know nothing in there in your time you got a resistant. Maybe become clever with it. I don't know if

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it would be much of a draw to the public. So dirty enough, you might be able to see what we could get some air from L. A and short Jerry, what prompted you to do this? Well, as they do a pilot, I am not a pilot.

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I am interested in aviation. I was aboard the USS Ranger, an aircraft carrier and Vietnam two tours of Vietnam, and I enjoy being around aircraft and working around them. And when we acquired one of our aircraft that I'll tell you about in a few minutes out

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of p cam. I wanted to become part of that airplane and take care of it. And I became a plane captain first, and then they were looking for somebody to do some public relations work. And I wanted to get into that, too. Well, you know, something

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that could be said right here, Gary, we don't have baseball these days, but the baseball managers, probably our best of ones, that you have never really played baseball or played it in a very limited level, and yet they still there. So your skill in the PR

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end of it out here should be unlimited because you're fascinated by it. Interested? That's kind of person is gonna draw the most in the way of displays out there. I think. Well, I hope to use the abilities that I've developed over the years. When I was

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a park ranger, I worked with the press on occasions. I'm not in the building inspection department. I'm in the code enforcement division of the Planning department and we oftentimes deal with the press on that angle to So I have some experience in that area. So that's

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why I thought I'd use it for P Camp. What projects are currently underway in P. Cam? Well, we have an ongoing project of what we call our basket case airplane. It's an 8 26 invader, a twin engine plane that is being restored at this time, and

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it is going to be brought up to flight status. Hopefully, by the end of this year, however, we do have another airplane, which I'd like to show the photograph. Number one is an F eight crusader. This is the aircraft right here. And the aircraft that you

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see out at Sonoma County Airport is actually this for this aircraft that you see on the wall. The picture you see is when this aircraft was in operation and was flying with the Marine Corps when it was retired. It wound up in a park in San

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Francisco on 19th Avenue for about 20 years. And if anybody has been down 19th Avenue, I'm sure has seen that airplane or maybe even climbed on it. It was on a playground, and we were able to recover that airplane, bring it back to Sonoma County, and

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last year in August, rolled on its tires for the first time in 20 years, we're going to try and get it back into its warbird colors that you see there and it's right now it's in zinc, chrome eight, yellow, which is pretty, pretty dirty looking. But

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we are restoring it. We had to acquire aircraft parts from Davis Month, um, Air Force base in Arizona to complete the restoration, but it's looking really good. So, uh, we're, you know Well, that would you be able to fly that again? No, this airplane will never

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fly again. And never fight is just a static display. Many of your aircraft are flying market. Yes, There are a 1,000,000 places. Museum collection? Yes. Okay. Um, naturally. Well, wait, Carrie, why don't we pause right here for for break that the station bring the audience Public

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It's called the Pacific Coast Air Museum. It's located at Arsenal Kind of Airport, and the gentleman who is the public relations person for P. Camas, it's called is sitting here with me. Very greenoe. He's a man of many talents, not many, many things, but right now

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his many of these energies air put towards this Pacific Coast. Irma's him, Gary. What's the long range plan for the Pacific Coast average? Well, as I already told you, the museum was established in about 1990 but the mid nineties, and we are on a month to

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month basis with the Sonoma County Airport Airport does not have anything to do with the museum. It's an independent agency. It's ah, agent of the County. The museum is independent. It's a, uh uh of all volunteer generated work and everything. There's nobody else that has anything

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to do with Pekin, just ourselves and our relationship with the airport. And while our long range plans are is to have a permanent fixed base at Sonoma County Airport, as I say, we are now paying tied on fees on each of our aircraft. And we are

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going on a month, the month thing, just like you to rent an apartment. And so we're looking for the Board of Supervisors to be very supportive and helping us to establish ourselves permanent foundation out there at the airport. Pregnant location would be would be great to

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have it here, right here. Yes. Okay, Jerry, when is your museum open? Well, there are people that go out to the museum on a constant basis. They're driving by. I've been working on my airplane out there from time to time, and there's a constant flow traffic.

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Unfortunately, because we are volunteer based organization, we don't have this people to man the museum. So our regular hours are a displayed A on the third Saturday of each month from 10 AM until 4 p.m. That is the third Saturday of each month that's called a

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displayed A. We pull out some airplanes. The museum that has static displays inside of building is also open and tours are available. Otherwise, we have our one open house a year, which is a two day event, and that is in August. And we have many, many

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aircraft and exhibitors who show up for that air air show. Okay, um, the the August deal must be a pretty big deal. Yes, In past years there's been several 100 it's the last couple of years. We've had several 1000 people. Yes, we've had up to 10,000

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people last year over the two days. All right, you want a person visitor museum? What will they see? Well, of course, there's a building that has the static displays. We have flight suits, and we have ejection seats and photographs of airplanes. Each one of the airplanes

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that we have on display also has its own little cubicle. It has little bits of information so people can look at the display first and then go outside and actually observed the aircraft like to also look at the photograph. Number two, that is an A six

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intruder. This is an airplane that was flown into Sonoma County Airport last June and has been going undergoing some restoration for color, putting the decals and markings back on it. This airplane is a veteran of the Vietnam War and also Desert Storm. Its name is War

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Eagle, and it's been a very, very popular attraction at our display days and the open house. The third photograph is, uh and I l 14. Now, this is a Russian troop transport plane that was flown to Snowmen County Airport from Stead Air Base in Reno. This

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aircraft is the only I l 14 that's flying as far as we know in the world, and certainly in the United States, there are only two of these in the United States, and the other one is being used for parts. And then, for the fourth photograph

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that's behind me is the F 16 Fighting Falcon, which is known as in Navy terminology as the viper. Now this particular aircraft was not flown into Snowmen County Airport because it is such a hot airplane. It was dismantled at Top gun in Miramar and trucked up

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here and pecan members put it back together again. This is the hottest jet fighter in the world at this time, and we were very, very fortunate to acquire it. This jet, there are only 24 of these particular models made. Now the F 16 is an Air

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Force jet. But this particular one, this model has an end designation for Navy. And this plane was used at Top Gun in Miramar as the chase plane to simulate the MiG 29 as they chase the F 14 Tomcats around when the military started downsizing their bases,

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it boggles the mind the number of aircraft they're available for public viewing. And I would recommend and, uh, tell the viewing folks out there to stand by for newer acquisitions coming up to the Snowmen County Airport. All right, two things you mentioned earlier. I want you,

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Teoh, and I really don't know more. What is it displayed? A And then what is your open house? Okay, the two terminologies are displayed. A Now, this is the third Saturday of each month. Kent before 10 to 4. When people can come in and look at

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the museum, the aircraft and talk to the people that are there, and that is only one day a month. The open house. However, this is when a number of the pecan members who have historical aircraft fly into Sonoma County Airport and put the aircraft out for

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display. It is a two day event, and we have also a number of exhibitors and people who sell aviation memorabilia and that sort of thing. And it's a big event like I had about 10,000 people last year and it's Ah, it's growing every year. And with

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the aircraft that we now have each of the airplanes that I just told you about, our unique, their historic. They have their own value and we have displays on each of them. What are the hours of the open house? The open house is his Same ones

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tend to attend a four on Saturday and Sunday, right? We'll hear much about that as we get closer to that. Uh, that would be a great time after one other projects are underway with this with pecan. Well, now that we're getting organized a little bit more

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and we want to, of course, get ourselves out there to the public. We have something called Kids Day that we're trying to get established. In fact, we've already done it one time. And that is, if anybody has a scout group or ah youth group or something

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like that that wants to come out to the airport. That's not on a scheduled displayed A. They can give us a call and arrange to have somebody there to tour. Now, these kids days, air still scheduled days. It will be the fourth Wednesday of each month

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and the fourth Saturday. So this is just for the kids. There won't be a lot of adults around. We may be able to open up some of the airplanes limb, climb in it, but we do have the kids day. We also were working down, trying to

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get Ah Aviation Scout program called the Air Scouts being like an Explorer program. So that's, Ah, the projects that we're going underway right now. You don't leave the keys and I'm drinking. Keys were not in him. In fact, the engine's air all taken out by the

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Navy because they don't want us to try and start the Jets. I was thinking of some very, uh, stupid kid, you know, saying, well, tendency. When we do open the airplanes, especially my A says I say my a sex, I'm responsible for it. We open the

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canopy and we let people get in there and I just tell people flat out when I'm standing on the ramp there, I say, Go ahead, get inside, have a good time, enjoy everything. So they're aside there touching buttons and don't touch that. Everybody jumps because they

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think they've hit their ejection seat or something. So it's a lot of fun, all right. Who conjoined the Pacific Coast Air Museum? I mentioned earlier that people that have historic aircraft, of course, conjoined in the museum, that the museum is open to anybody, people who have

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interest in aviation or people who just want to be a part of a growing new organization. Snowmen County. We really like to see people who have prior military experience working on airframes or hydraulics or Elektronik systems. That's where, but anybody conjoined anybody conjoined. So even though

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they're not, even though they're not a pilot, that's correct. I'm not a pilot. That's true. All right. Yeah, we have a number of members who are not pilots just like to work on the airplane. When you say enjoying, what's the procedure? Enjoy. We have an application.

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It's only $20 a year. And we have a real nice quarterly newsletter that comes out. Tells everybody what the upcoming events are and what projects need to be worked on. In fact, Rich. I could even make you an honorary plane, Captain, I'll give you a rag

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and you come out and start wiping down some airplanes if you want. Are you gonna fly it? No, sir. I'll come out. Come out. All right. That's what Apart again from 19. Gentlemen. Important message coming up after which will come back and we will talk some

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more, Which carry Greenoe. Why don't you come up here, pumpkin? Were you doing Larry? Well, Vince, I've asked my pumpkin to sit on my lap to prove a point. And what is that? You're Larry nous? Even if we fasten our safety belts, even if you hold

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on tight Even if you were watching the road, your pumpkin will be nothing but a squash. You could learn a lot from a dummy. Use child safety seats way love that little pumped into pieces. Welcome back to this addition of Sonoma County in the nineties. We've

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been talking about the Pacific Coast Air Museum, located at our Sonoma County airport, and talking with Gary Greenoe, who is the new public relations officer for P. Cam. Doing it on a volunteer basis. I believe half of his life is a volunteer basis, I think. But

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we're proud of it for that girl, Gary. Can members work on restoration and recovery projects? Pecan. Oh yes, that's part of the deal of being a member of the museum. It's the thrill of going out and banging on some metal and getting their plane ready to

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show the public. In the case of the 8 26 the airplane will fly again someday, and the people who are working on it, we'll have the credit for getting it back in the air again. That would be a nice feeling. Oh, absolutely worked on. And there,

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uh, are more airplanes coming to P camp? Yes, we do have some or airplanes coming. We're going to make announcements as they arrive in Sonoma County. I will tip you off, though, in our viewing public out there that we do have an F 14 Tomcat That

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is the top gun plane itself coming into Snowmen County. It will be flying in here in just a couple of months. We have a T 33 in a four Skyhawk that air down a Davis month, an Air Force base that is just awaiting a recovery team

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and people to go down, dismantle him and bring him back. And we also have an F four phantom that's sitting up with the Sierra Army Depot, ready to be dismantled and brought here those all fighter aircraft. Yes, the T 33 is a trainer and a four

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was used in Vietnam. And as was the F four Phantom, Uh, how could people get ahold of you? Got a phone number? The phone numbers for the museum is 575 79 100. That's a recorded message. There's a recording machine out there because this is a volunteer

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organization. Of course, we're not there all the time. However, 575 79 100 will get you in touch with the museum, the public relations officer, which is myself, that this point in time I can be reached after five o'clock on my cell phone, so we'll keep the

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messages short after five o'clock at 484 64 100 for further information. Was that again? 484 6400? Yes, after a and, uh, repeats that most those numbers in a moment, people probably are, I would hope, fascinated by what you've shown us hearing what you're talking about. How

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can they contact Regime for further information on any of these things? Well, of course, if your numbers you just you two numbers there. The museum has a meeting night, the third Wednesday of every month at the Office of Education, out of the airport in Airport Complex

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on Skyline Boulevard, right behind the Skyline Deli. The meeting starts at 7 p.m. We always have fascinating speakers from the world of aviation, and we talk about the upcoming events and projects that need to be taken care of. All right, now, the three there's the last.

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The third Saturday of every month is the what you call that displayed a displayed a the fourth Wednesday and Saturday our kids Kids days and then in August is the open house open house. That's it. That was a major major carry Reached about at a time.

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Always a pleasure to see you. Bet you you embarrass me every time I come on here. That's part of the kids. Um, you're always good. Yes, you're always doing something That's interesting. And this is certainly an example of that. I personally please do. And I would

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invite anyone interested in aviation to visit the museum very soon to numbers again. 575 79 100 extra at X for the museum. Your home, My number 484 64 100. And keep that one brief. And keep that one brief. It's on my cell phones. Ladies and gentlemen,

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we've been talking to Gary Greenoe, who is the public relations officer for the Pacific Coast, and reveal a new project on a new project located of Snowmen County Airport. Something that's very, very interesting. I'm going to go see it nice until you think you should. My

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name is Richman Frenchie. The program said overturn in the nineties. Be back with you next week. But remember the county government, family or someone that doing something fascinating like Carrie with the P cam group? Fill in tonight. Good luck. Good help, Agent everyone. You

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know