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Well, we have a surprise for you. Nice surprise, you know, comes in nice packages and we have a package here are very charming lady that represents the wine growers of California and she is none other than jean. Vanier from Washington D. C. When she called me

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and secretary, I'm going to be down in that area. I like to come by and chat a bit. So here we are chatting jean. You do you have a family? I have, I have a son, Sun 24. I might as well say it out loud and

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a daughter 21. How nice. Well then you're not tied down to home ties. No, no. And you are representing the wine industry now, just what is your function with the wine industry? Well, I live in Washington and more and more people as you know, have become

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interested in wine. And our particular area is to tell the people in Washington and sometimes the people in north Carolina about wine, answer some of their questions and you know, wine is getting to be a subject that's more talked about and people say, well do you

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really have to do that or do you really have to know all about wine? And I go around saying, no, you really don't. But that's one way of putting it. Of course wine is as old as the bible itself because God grew the vineyards and wine

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is manufactured, still is and we know why it became so acceptable and cooking. We know the history of that. But it is a growing industry in America right well, as you know in europe and many, many years, all over the world, people didn't think that wine

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was something that you saved for weddings and New Year's Eve or something, but they thought that it was a normal healthful beverage to have with meals. And now americans have in recent years become increasingly aware of that and they're drinking more of it and then becoming

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more curious about it and wanting to know a little bit more about. Well, as you said, wine is the naturally fermented juice of ripe grapes, but then there is as you know, white wine and red wine and people say, you know, do you have to do

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this with that? And we say no, but there are certain favorites and try to just make people more comfortable about it. Well, I like to read about things and and try them out when it's feasible and we know that once the wine is heated, say for

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instance, than cooking, it is the evaporation of the alcohol that leaves the flavors in the meat and in the breads and things and you know, it is an educational type program that we have to do so well, then really when you cooked with wine and you

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no longer have an alcoholic, even a mildly alcoholic beverage as wine is, you have the essence of the wine, the flavor of the wine and I think some of the goodness of the grape, I've brought you a couple of books says gourmet wine cooking. The easy

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way it's published by the wine advisory board, but I call it instant gourmet because for me at least I'm delighted to say you don't have to spend hours in preparation and you don't have to be a very exotic cook to come up with a delightful gourmet

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dish. And you know, I think it's just one of the best and easiest books I've ever seen. Well, it certainly looks like this is brand new to me. And before you leave, I want you to autograph it. Look to see the autograph it there. And I

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thank you so very much. Now you do have some other leaflets here. Well, I brought these because that one you can send for, but you have to pay for these you can ask for and they are complementary. This is one called how to cook with California

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wines. And this one was how to make punches and other mixed drinks with California wine. And there is another one which I unfortunately don't have with me called wine tasting parties because that is something that has become very popular. I know in Washington and I understand

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all over the country because it's a fun way to entertain. It's kind of a gourmet adventure because you have a few friends and a few bottles of wine and a few cubes of cheese and people taste. And old friends have something new to talk about and

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new friends have something in common immediately as discussing the kinds of wine. It's kind of an adventure. That's true and it pays for all of us to learn about things. If you're a little weary and leery about trying something, learn about it. It's educational. I know

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where the A. W. R. T. And you are a member of the A. W. R. T. That american women, radio and television. They've heard me mention that so many many times. Uh that means that you have attended some of these wine tasting affairs. And it is

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educational because I did not realize and you never swallow when you're tasting and you taste it and get the texture. Well it depends it up at a very social wine tasting you take, you never take a big swallow because you want to taste three or four

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or five different kinds. You take a very tiny sip that the professional wine tasters don't because they rinse their mouth between and they want to go on to the next one. The ones who are tasting for reasons of making the wines or for reasons of buying

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or something. But the uh the social, well we had an A. W. R. T. Wine tasting Washington as a matter of fact. Oh about a year ago. And I must say all of our colleagues were very enthusiastic and we just had a long table and we

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each decided which one we like discovered a new sherry that we thought was interesting. You know, so many people now, instead of having a cocktail before dinner or having a glass of sherry, and I keep stressing that the wine growers of California like to say that

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wine is the beverage of moderation. Well, it has been so wonderful chatting with Eugene Gene Bernero of Washington D. C, representing the wine growers of California. Thank you again for coming and being our delightful guest. Thank you.