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Jeremy Hays: OK, OK. So Graham, just like I promised I would, I'm going to ask the question about where did you grow up and what did? Alan Fitch: We're rolling. Jeremy Hays: Your parents do. And where did you grow up? Graham Balord: I was born in Detroit.

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Graham Balord: Lived there till I was 12 and my father passed away on July 4th, 1944 and we moved to my mother, my sister and myself. We moved to Albuquerque because my mother was asthmatic. Graham Balord: I didn't like it there, so I went back to Detroit live with my brother for a couple of years and then back to Albuquerque. Graham Balord: Then I joined the Navy in Albuquerque in 1949. Graham Balord: Came out here through boot camp and all the other stuff you go through at the corner and war had just broke out.

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Graham Balord: And I got sent out from the East Coast, out here to the West Coast. Graham Balord: I was a mineman and we took over some army ships down at Fort Baker that were mine layers. Graham Balord: And that's how I got out here to California. Jeremy Hays: And so where were you when you got discharged from?

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Graham Balord: I was in North Island, San Diego. Graham Balord: Navy base. Jeremy Hays: If you could say when I got discharged, I was. Graham Balord: In. Yeah, when I got discharged, I was stationed at North Island, San Diego, CA. Yeah.

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Jeremy Hays: And so how did you get up to Rohnert Park, and why did you come to Rohnert Park? Graham Balord: For two years before North Island, I was stationed at the Presidio. Graham Balord: Though I was in the Navy, we belonged to the Harbor Defense Unit in San Francisco. The mouth of San Francisco Bay. Graham Balord: And I had a friend I was stationed with from Santa Rosa brought me up here.

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Graham Balord: To the Midway barn dance. Where was that? It was out on Sebastopol Ave. Graham Balord: Yeah, it was there for quite a few years. Jeremy Hays: What do you remember about the midway bond ends? Graham Balord: The good times? Yeah. Learn how to dance and stuff. It's it was every Saturday night was a good time at the midway.

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Jeremy Hays: So you got to know Santa Rosa a little bit during that time. Graham Balord: I I met my wife out there at the barn dance and we she was an earthling girl. The old Earthling school. Graham Balord: And she was when I met her. She was 14 and I was 17. Graham Balord: And we went together for four years while I was in the service. I was gone most of the time, but we we got married at right after I got out of the Navy in 1953.

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Jeremy Hays: So when you come up, I guess you'd come up. What the old Redwood Hwy. Back in the day. Graham Balord: Yes, it was the old the old highway pass, Hamilton Field and stuff. There was three lanes and the rest of it was 2 lanes. Graham Balord: Ah yes, to to get up here yet is Santa. Jeremy Hays: Rosa and what was there then and if?

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Graham Balord: You could. It was so well it. Graham Balord: Was a seed farm. Graham Balord: Hill, the Rohnert Seed farm. Jeremy Hays: And what did it?

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Graham Balord: Right there. Jeremy Hays: Look like. Graham Balord: What it looked like it was just. Graham Balord: Bare fields with growing seeds, yeah.

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Jeremy Hays: So when you came back up here after the the you said Navy after the Navy, why did you end up in Roanoke? How did you end up in Rohnert Park and? Jeremy Hays: Not why not, Santa Rosa? Graham Balord: When I got out of the Navy, I came to Santa Rosa because it's my future wife lived. Graham Balord: In fact, they last year I was in a Navy. I hitchhiked from San Diego to Santa Rosa every weekend.

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Graham Balord: Come up all night long on Friday night and get into Santa Rosa about 9:30 on Saturday morning. Jeremy Hays: That's a serious hitchhike. Graham Balord: Hitchhiked all night, yes, and then I leave at 12 noon on Sunday and hitchhike back and hope I made it before 7:00 on Monday. Jeremy Hays: So I just want to interrupt one second. When you're talking I'm I have to be really quiet. So I'm not just sitting here being mute and not saying anything. I'm like, if you because if you were saying that you hitched back up here every weekend. Usually I would say wow.

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Graham Balord: Yeah, yeah. Jeremy Hays: And then go from there. But I can't say anything, so if I just sit in here making faces, that's why. Jeremy Hays: So you can't. You used to come up here and visit Rohnert Park I. Jeremy Hays: Mean Santa Rosa.

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Jeremy Hays: How did you end up in Rohnert? Graham Balord: Well, after I got out of the Navy, I I went to work for Stevenson Equipment Company here in Santa Rosa with international truck and tractor dealer. Graham Balord: With them about six months and it was when the timber industry got hit hard. So I got laid off in the second bunch. Graham Balord: So I was out of work for about four months and then I went to work for National Electric Supply Company. It took 100 4th St. and I was with them for about 9-10 years and then we merged with a company out of Hawaii.

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Graham Balord: So between the two of them. Graham Balord: We just changed names. We didn't change jobs or anything. I was with them 3032 years and I retired from them. Graham Balord: And then I got called from Portland for another company. He wanted me to open up a branch for them in Santa Rosa. Graham Balord: So then in the meantime, they started building Rohnert Park. And I'm one of the first ones to move in there in the second block of a section.

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Jeremy Hays: And why did you move there? Why? Jeremy Hays: Didn't you move? Graham Balord: Because there they were nice homes and the prices were right. Graham Balord: So if you could say I moved there because they were nice homes, so you know, when I moved there at the beginning, so we.

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Graham Balord: Know what it was. Graham Balord: Yeah, I'm. I'm losing you someplace. You. You speak softly and and my hearing is not that that sharp. Graham Balord: Yeah. So just say I I moved to Rohnert Park because and then tell us why that way we know. Graham Balord: So I I must.

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Jeremy Hays: Look at him. Start again. Yeah, yeah. Graham Balord: I moved to Rohnert Park. Graham Balord: Of the IT was new. Graham Balord: The prices were good prices and I could get a GI loan to move in there.

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Jeremy Hays: Which I did. And how did you choose your house? Graham Balord: We came down and looked at them. They had models. Graham Balord: And picked out the one I wanted more. The pretty much the same floor plans, but I chose the one I live in because of the way the house sat on the lot and everything to give me room to. Graham Balord: Park an RV on the side of it. If I wanted to, yeah.

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Jeremy Hays: And how long do you? How long did you live? Do you still? Where do you? Graham Balord: Live now. Same house 60 years. Jeremy Hays: And what street is it on? What's the address? Graham Balord: 271 Adele Ave.

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Jeremy Hays: And and how many other houses? That was the first neighborhood in Rohnert Park. How many houses? When you went down there and looked at it, how many houses were there? And answer the question if you could, like, there were blank houses. Graham Balord: Well, the number of houses that I was in the second block of Adele Ave. and the they were still building down my block. Jeremy Hays: And do you remember what year that was? Graham Balord: 1959.

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Graham Balord: We bought it in the fall of 1959, but we didn't move in till 1960 because I wouldn't move in until the GI loan had cleared. Jeremy Hays: Got it. So you moved in and that the city wasn't even a city at that point? Graham Balord: That's right. It was not a city. Jeremy Hays: What was there other than the houses? What was there?

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Graham Balord: A lot of cricket from the seed farm. Graham Balord: It was just all new. Graham Balord: And it just seems like a nice in fact. Graham Balord: My son's godfather, he was.

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Graham Balord: Lived in Santa Rosa for, Umm, 10 years. Graham Balord: He questioned why I would buy a house down there. Graham Balord: And as well it just got the best deal, the right price. I can get the loan. And he says, well, in the winter time you're going to have to go home in a canoe. And I hate to tell him he's he's gone now, but I hate to tell him I haven't bought the canoe. Jeremy Hays: Yet yeah. Why did he think that you were going to have? Why?

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Graham Balord: Did he say that because he used to flood a bit down there until he opened up the the waterways, you know? Yeah. Jeremy Hays: What was the neighborhood like when you moved in? Graham Balord: What was what? Jeremy Hays: What was the neighborhood like when you moved in there?

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Graham Balord: It was all young people like myself and my wife, yeah. Jeremy Hays: Did you have kids at the time? Did you? What did you have children at? Jeremy Hays: The time. Graham Balord: We had one my son.

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Graham Balord: He would be 64 this coming may. Graham Balord: And then we had a daughter four years after he was born, my daughter was. Jeremy Hays: Born and were there a lot of kids in the neighborhood? Graham Balord: At the time, yes.

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Jeremy Hays: Yes. Could you say there were a lot of kids in the? Jeremy Hays: Neighborhood. Then there was a lot of kids in. Graham Balord: The neighborhood and they all grew up together. They. Graham Balord: Went to Rancho Cataldi High School, played football, played baseball and you know all the sports and stuff. They and they were very, very close, very.

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Graham Balord: I knew many of them. I still know many of them, yeah. Jeremy Hays: And did you get to know a lot of people become friends in that neighborhood that a? Graham Balord: Neighborhood. Oh, yes. Yeah, of course. Some of them have moved on. Some of them have passed away. Graham Balord: But no, we were we were close neighborhood.

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Jeremy Hays: Tell me about Pete Callahan. How did you meet him? Graham Balord: Through his his one son and my son, they met their first. Yeah, yeah. Jeremy Hays: I'm. I'm sorry, Graham. I'm going to ask you to start again with that. I met Pete Callahan and then go. Graham Balord: OK. I met Pete Kalaney and through his son, young Pete and my son, they.

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Jeremy Hays: From there. Graham Balord: The first day to 1st grade at John Reed School. Graham Balord: Is where they met, and my son came home that evening from school and said I have a new friend. His name is Pete. Graham Balord: And they were unshuffle. They did everything together.

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Jeremy Hays: Yeah, you were talking about vacations. Graham Balord: Oh yeah, they we were so close that lot of times that when we went on vacation, we took Pete with us and then big Pete. Graham Balord: The father, he would go on vacation. Sometimes. He'd take my son with him. Yeah. Jeremy Hays: Do you think that because it was a new city like it was just so new?

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Jeremy Hays: People were still, you know, forming friendships right from the beginning, that it was easier to make friendships like that because the city was new. Graham Balord: Yeah, I'd say so. We would all starting out more or less on our our big adventure. Him, yeah. Graham Balord: We we used to have garage parties and then all the neighbors would get together and have live music in a garage or something like that and dance in the garage. You shouldn't and have a few drinks and BBQ. Graham Balord: It was a big gathering of the neighborhoods, yeah.

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Jeremy Hays: And were there did people form like neighborhood associations, that kind of thing? Graham Balord: Yeah, that by my wife and I and and some of the other people on the block, we started the. Graham Balord: OK, you want. Graham Balord: To call them the fundraiser group for the school.

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Graham Balord: We we used to put on spaghetti feeds and stuff like that to raise money for the different programs at Rancho Cotati High School because most of the kids in our neighborhood played sports there, so we were just trying to help them out and the school too. Jeremy Hays: Can you tell me why? Jeremy Hays: The schools were so important to the new city, it was a new city. Why was schools so important to it? And and if you could start it with the schools were. Graham Balord: I don't know. I guess because all the families there had kids and that kids all went to the same school and.

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Graham Balord: They got along good. They the biggest part of played sports and. Graham Balord: In fact, my son played Little League and stuff like that during the summer time, and Pete Callahan was his coach. Jeremy Hays: Yeah. Did your company was it based in Rohnert Park or did you work in Rohnert Park? OK, did most of the friends you made in those days, where were they from? Graham Balord: Well, they mainly had some friends that met through my wife before we were married. She they say she graduated from Ursuline in high school in 1952.

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Graham Balord: And so that some of the girls that she went to school with. Graham Balord: We became friends and got married about the same time we got married and we all stayed friends and some of them were still friends today, yeah. Jeremy Hays: Did you meet a lot of friends in Rohnert Park? Graham Balord: Yeah. Yeah, we're at that stage of life where quite a few of them have passed on. You know, I'm a widower and Pete, he's a widower. And but we still do things together. So yeah.

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Jeremy Hays: What was it? Jeremy Hays: What were some of your favorite, you know, memories that stand out from that early time of the city? Graham Balord: Well, there was. Graham Balord: We used to have the shopping center there ceases market and they, as I remember there used to be a Chevron gas station on the corner there that they finally closed down and moved elsewhere. But and that was a kind of a.

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Graham Balord: Place he had met people, go to restaurants and different shops and stuff and. Graham Balord: I don't know. Jeremy Hays: Anything else that really stands out? Graham Balord: No, we just did a lot of things together. You know, the people that lived there in that area and stuff.

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Jeremy Hays: What what I mean? Jeremy Hays: A lot of people say that it was a really exciting time to be part of a new city. It didn't have any history, but it had a lot of future. What was it like for you to be, you know, in Rohnert Park at that time to say what? And if you could answer? Jeremy Hays: Being in Rohnert Park at that time. Graham Balord: Well, we were most of the families were very involved with their kids.

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Graham Balord: And they say most of the kids in a section, it was the first section built of they did a lot of things together in sports. My son, he he was on their championship baseball team in I think was 71 or so. My other deal on it. Graham Balord: And then he was on the football team and then he was on a the boxing team. They had, he was. Graham Balord: The 95 LB. Champagne and over that back in the 70s or something like that. Yeah. And we went to a lot of ball games in Rohnert Park and other towns where they, the French Cotati, played ball. And then the summer. Graham Balord: Leagues, they they we went to in the.

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Graham Balord: We hung together and they have a lot of the neighbors said. We said we'd go to the ball games together and stuff and watch the kids and whoop and holler and yeah. Jeremy Hays: So your son was a featherweight? Is that what they called it? A 95 LB class was a featherweight. Is that what? Jeremy Hays: Or light featherweight. Graham Balord: Well, it was, uh, they were, as they say, they had the this.

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Graham Balord: I'm trying to wrench Cotati Boxing League or something like that and we would go to different towns and that they have boxing matches with the kids and then at the very end they would have the Golden Mittens championships at the fairgrounds in Santa Rosa. Graham Balord: And the one year my son with a 95 LB. Champion. But there was other kids that were in a different weight classes that that were champions and it just went on for a few years. But my son, he boxed from the time he was 7 till he was 14 and. Graham Balord: With 14, they were getting pretty good because they, their coach, had been the I think it was the lightweight champion for the state of California. Graham Balord: And he was their coach. And he taught him a lot.

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Jeremy Hays: Were you? Did you ever box? Graham Balord: No, not really. Yeah, no. Jeremy Hays: So one of the things I was thinking about is that Rona, do you remember the I think? Jeremy Hays: They were called Rohnert Park days. It was like.

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Jeremy Hays: Whenever, like, once a year, it would be like. Jeremy Hays: Sort of a celebration of when the city was founded. Graham Balord: Well, they have that they still have it as far as I know, because they have it out for the center is freckle center, what I call it. They have the bed races and and car show and stuff like that. Jeremy Hays: And what would it?

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Jeremy Hays: Do you remember the Rohnert Park days from? Jeremy Hays: Back then. Ohh yeah. Jeremy Hays: OK. Could you? Jeremy Hays: Tell me what they're like, but start the sentence saying I remember.

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Jeremy Hays: Rohnert Park days. Graham Balord: I remember VeRohnert Park days. We would go to watch the parade on Snyder Ave. the schools and different groups would in the parade they would have a car show. Graham Balord: Trying to think of all the things they did, they had booths set up, you know, for food booths and stuff like that, and they had music and the people from all over the arena park would come there and. Graham Balord: Have a good time.

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Jeremy Hays: What kind of people did live in Rohnert Park? Well, if you had to say if you got here and you landed from space and you and you looked around, what would you say about the people from Rohnert Park? And if you could start the question with people in Rohnert Park. Graham Balord: Well, you're losing me there someplace. I I I'm not quite understanding how you're. Jeremy Hays: OK. What type of people lived in Rohnert Park? Graham Balord: Working people, yeah.

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Jeremy Hays: Could you say? Jeremy Hays: The type of people who lived in Rohnert Park were working people. Graham Balord: The type of people that lived in Rock Park, where working people, they were just looking to their future because that's why they bought here. Some people said you shouldn't move there because of the flooding and stuff, but we took the gamble and. Graham Balord: Been happy ever since.

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Jeremy Hays: How has the a neighborhood changed since you bought your house there? Graham Balord: Well, which over here is we got a lot of new. I'm old. Graham Balord: See and your kids grow up and they go in different directions and then you have grandkids and stuff like that. And so then the neighborhood, these eventually starts changing because. Graham Balord: He got young people generation now that look into the future. Want to get a home. And evidently Rohnert Park has been one of the chosen places. So I have a lot of new neighbors.

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Graham Balord: That I don't even know. Now there's few years still there. I had four generations of my family living in my block up until two years ago. Jeremy Hays: Well, who is? Graham Balord: That my daughter lives in her husband live right across street from me, my grandson. Graham Balord: His wife and two of my great grandkids lived 4 doors down, but they moved two years ago to that new track out there by so mobile.

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Jeremy Hays: And your daughter still lives on the street. Graham Balord: Still lives across the street. She she works at the Marine General Hospital. Jeremy Hays: OK, yeah, that must feel good to be live in a place where. Jeremy Hays: There's still some stability, still some history.

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Graham Balord: Yeah, I like it there. Graham Balord: Too old to move now. Jeremy Hays: What do you remember? You moved there in 59. Do you remember the whole thing about incorporating in 1962? Graham Balord: Yes, not I don't remember the whole thing, but when it was brought up that they wanted to incorporate and there's some people there, they come up with some wild ideas about the well, we don't have a Police Department. We don't have a fire department and stuff like that and.

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Graham Balord: They said, well, we we can get vehicles from there. Graham Balord: Trying to remember what they call it now. Graham Balord: They were government, state government vehicles and stuff. They'll let us use them and so we don't have to worry about that kind of well. I knew that they had to worry about something like. Graham Balord: That so?

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Jeremy Hays: Did you vote for the incorporation? Jeremy Hays: So why did you vote for the incorporation? Graham Balord: Well, it was getting we, we city was getting start to get pretty large by then you know and it was time that we needed a Police Department and fire department of our own yeah. Jeremy Hays: So you grew up in Detroit, Big City, Albuquerque, which?

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Jeremy Hays: I don't know what it is then. Jeremy Hays: But it's still. Graham Balord: It was 65. Graham Balord: 1000 when we moved there in 19.

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Graham Balord: 4045. Jeremy Hays: 7:45 that's a pretty big city. Yeah. What was it like moving from there to and all of a sudden having a home in a place where maybe 500 people in Rohnert Park? Graham Balord: I liked it. Jeremy Hays: Yeah. What? What did you like? Well.

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Graham Balord: It was just that the the. Graham Balord: Country country itself. I mean, they're the states that you move from place like Michigan. Like I did as a kid. And you move to a place in Albuquerque, out in the desert. Graham Balord: It's it's kind of a shock and I just came out here in the service and I liked it out here, so I stayed here. Jeremy Hays: Yeah. Who are the two or three people in Rohnert Park who were most important in your life in Rohnert Park in other than your immediate?

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Jeremy Hays: Family with the people in town who like, really made a difference in your life. Graham Balord: Well, I had good friends up, up and down the whole. Graham Balord: Three, I had the the Bensons that lived next door to where my daughter lived. Now they were there for a lot of years, but they both have passed away. Their kids are still around, but there's only one of their kids that lives in Rohnert Park, the. Graham Balord: Rest of them have.

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Graham Balord: Moved elsewhere and then had Danny Ryan down the street. He. Graham Balord: Grew up with my. Graham Balord: Wife in Saint Rose School and then. Graham Balord: He became a teacher at Santa Rosa JC.

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Graham Balord: And so we were good friends and they they moved out about 10 years ago to Quincy. Graham Balord: And but. Jeremy Hays: Quincy is in there's Quincy, MA with that, is there a Quincy out here in California? Ohh OK. Graham Balord: Yes, yes, it's up there on the by the Feather River.

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Graham Balord: Yeah, yeah. Jeremy Hays: River. OK. I didn't know about that. Jeremy Hays: So is there anything about Rohnert Park that you would want people to know, like, say, somebody goes to research the history of Rohnert Park? What would you want them to know? Jeremy Hays: And if you could start it with, I would want somebody to know.

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Graham Balord: Well, you got me on that one. Yeah. I don't know how to. Jeremy Hays: Answer that one. It must be a good feeling to grow up in the street or to to be on a street where you have, like you said, friends. Graham Balord: Up and down the street. Yeah, but I don't have that many friends now because the new generation. Graham Balord: Moving in, you know, and they, they got little kids and I got great grandkids. Now, see? So. And they're not, as I say, I had four generations living in my block.

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Jeremy Hays: Sure, sure. Graham Balord: For a while. Graham Balord: But now it's just my daughter and her husband and myself. Jeremy Hays: Kim, do you remember when Sonoma State or Sonoma College, Sonoma State College moved in?

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Graham Balord: When they first started Sonoma State College, they started in a A. Graham Balord: An apartment complex. Graham Balord: X in a section and then they started building the college out there. My granddaughter and her husband both have graduated from the summer State College and he's a deputy sheriff now, and she had her own business. Graham Balord: And Petaluma for a while, the the beauty salon and stuff. But then when the kids came, then she sold it out. And she's a stay at home. And I got my 2 great grandkids by them.

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Graham Balord: Involved in sports, they're ten and eight. Jeremy Hays: Too, too young for Sonoma State universities. Graham Balord: Well, yeah, but my grandpa granddaughter. She she she was. Graham Balord: The first, born in Rohnert Park in January of 1980, she just had her 40th birthday here this last January.

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Graham Balord: And she was the first born in VeRohnert Park, and they they gave her all kinds of stuff, you know, because she was first born. Jeremy Hays: Was it in the? Graham Balord: Paper Oh yeah. Jeremy Hays: Yeah. What was the runner? Park Press or what? What was the paper?

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Graham Balord: The Press Democrat, yeah. Jeremy Hays: All right. Jeremy Hays: Last question about Sonoma State, do you remember what kind of impact did that have opening the College in on Rohnert Park? Graham Balord: It at first I was in favor of the college. I didn't like the construction because it was all cement and the.

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Graham Balord: Some that's not that great looking. Yeah. So he's got there and I used to ride my bicycle on the they had the bike paths along the Creek. They went clear out there and and I'd ride my bicycle out there. Graham Balord: And wander around and come back and stuff you. Jeremy Hays: Know do you think it was a good addition for our park? Graham Balord: Oh, definitely. So yes. How come? Well, it's just it's a nice college. They get a lot of nice.

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Graham Balord: Kids sit there, going to college and stuff and it just I think it has a good reputation and it's they've done a lot of addition and stuff to improve it and make it look nice and everything else. Jeremy Hays: They have done a good job out there, yeah. Jeremy Hays: Alright, Graham, thank you so much. Yeah, yeah. Is that it? That's it. Yeah, yeah. Alan Fitch: One question occurs to me this may or may not have a good answer, but if you can think of an answer, look at Jeremy. When you say it so the question is you've got a new generation in your neighborhood now talking to them as someone who was there back at the beginning, what would you want them to know about?

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Alan Fitch: Owner to park. Alan Fitch: Because they weren't there at the beginning. Alan Fitch: That you were. Alan Fitch: Is there anything you.

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Alan Fitch: Would want to tell them about that. Graham Balord: No, it would be true. You like. I don't talk too much to my new neighbors and stuff because they're busy during the day working. And then when they come home at night, they're involved with the kids in sports or whatever they do. Graham Balord: So you, you wave and say hi or something, but you don't really get together with like we did in our day, yeah. Jeremy Hays: What happens if you did? What would you tell them? Like? What happens if they all came over to your house this afternoon? What would you tell them about Rohnert Park back in the day?

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Graham Balord: Well, that would be hard when they answer because we we started when it started growing and we watched this whole process go to build to what it is today and they coming in at the tail end and it's I don't know how to. Graham Balord: Answer that question. Fair enough. Yeah, well, thanks Graham. Graham Balord: Well, thank you. Yeah. Jeremy Hays: Yeah, you did great. It was a good, interesting interview.

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Graham Balord: In fact, did you? Did you want any pictures or anything? Alan Fitch: Yeah, Andy wants, but don't stand up getting, yeah. Graham Balord: Like that.