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Yeah, for those of you who have not had the pleasure of meeting my name's Catherine Reinhardt and I am the museum's historians. No. Uh, and so before introduce Mr Gamba Nini. I have a few wells kind of a commercial. Teoh offer here lets you know what's

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going on here at the museum. Things that you might be interested in. We've conveniently placed on your seats calendar events. Now, if you're a member, you've probably been receiving our newsletter and maybe up to date. But it only comes out quarterly. So he's a good reminder.

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Um, and a lot of the things that are coming up assed faras speakers and so forth are in connection with our dairy exhibit, which is surrounding you in that is gonna be up through we'd hoped through December, but it's actually looking like it's gonna be up

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through October. If you have friends and family, be sure to bring them in. So the next thing that's coming up with regard to Steri history is July 19th and North Bay Dairy Women's Association is hosting Dairy Day here at the museum. Actually, mostly activity is going

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to be in our back court area with milking demonstrations, free ice cream, dairy games and so forth and then inside. While the opportunity to get a better look at the exhibit, which has had to be pushed away for this talk today and then we're having a

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silent auction, so my hope that you will be able to stop by for that it's from 12 to 3. Now, speaking of women, as in the North Bay Dairy Women's Association tomorrow night, City Council, it's gonna be a proclamation. Its national. It's June, his national dairy

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month. And what a great opportunity to celebrate that with a proclamation that will be made at seven PM so I would like to stop by for that. I probably ought to take all of about 10 minutes, but it ought to be a good time and a

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great way to recognize our hair. It is here, Um, also speaking of women steps. They're the reason I was speaking of women as we would really like as part of our speakers panel. So forth is to have the role of women in dairy convicted in a

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better way than what we've done here with the exhibit. Have folks come in and talk multigenerational type of thing, and that's something that we would like to do, perhaps in October. So it's something Margaret gamboling I've talked out a little bit, but if anyone's interested in

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getting involved, please do let me know. Um, okay, on the backside of the calendar of events, we have membership applications. In case you're not a member, Here's your opportunity, and I just want to stress that membership dues are really important. Teoh to the museum, especially during

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these times. Very quiet. For your senior, it's on your $10 with that you get satisfaction that you are being apart preserving problemas Heritage newsletter. You get your eligible for discounts for the few bets that we have, and we do have. One of them will be charging

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for September 25th for having a movie night here at the museum's So cool to you. We found when Clovers been a big part of this exhibit, and when I went over to their storage unit to see what they had that we might put on display, we

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found a box of five canisters of film 16 million Great mystery to everybody turns out from the 19 thirties and they documents the history of the Creamery, and they are hilarious and very informative as well. So we're gonna have damn Benedetti and Gary here because their

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science. So there's little interpretation that's required, but that September 25th tickets will be on sale August 10. Members will be $5 no members eight. That's partly because we're expecting a big crowd seeding availability. Okay, so besides membership get involved like volunteers such as our videographer today,

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Mr Michael Nesler, the bridge can videos. I met him a recent rotary meeting, and we also volunteers like the Gambon, any family who have. You'll see some of a lot of their things here on display. So it's thanks to people like the Gabonese that were actually

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able to do this. Exhibit signs newspaper maps, photos, cream are butter Church. Who knew how many kinds of trans? So yeah, getting to the Gabinete family. They have, as you'll hear shortly, a very long tradition in dairy business. Also a long history in promoting mysterious heritage.

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Harlan Osborne just found for me the other day us an article from 1958 when the city was celebrating its centennial, and it talks about how Sylvia Gamberini, George's grandfather, had his dairy equipment on display for exhibit that they have as part of the centennial celebration, and

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it talks about the whole history of daring. At that point, Silvio had been daring for 50 years, and he was also a founder of the cooperative. Creameries had lots to share, and he was happy to do so, and it was really quite well received so that

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it's a great story. And that story continues today, with George Campanini in Hopefully a son, Frank, having met but expect 1/5 generation problem daring and that some of you folks were participating, George's probably been talking to you over the last couple weeks, hoping that you brought

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pictures and how things to share. So without further ado, please joining and walking Mr George Company kind of a pleasure to see so many people here scary on my part. And and I'm sure there's a lot of people sitting here in the audience that no as

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much as I do and probably other details and facts, and I really would like them if they would take the time and do a little participation and answer questions or that I may ask them that they may know some things that I don't know, Uh, as

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ah, I've just just heard I'm going to be talking about six generations of ah dairy people in this area, which we've got three of the general, our generation here, my son and is here, Frank. And then he has his daughter with him. Alexandra with him. So

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we got three generations right here already in the dairy industry. Uh, my great grandfather moved in this area around 18. 69 left, left, Switzerland. Look for a better life. Time was hard over there. Come to the land of enrichment and hopefully to make his fortune here.

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He came here with two of his brothers. One brother was only here about a year and 1/2 developed asthma. To think we had asked my back in those days without all the other pollution. So it was already here then, but they came across a from Switzerland

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by boat, landed in Panama, took the across the isthmus, come out on a flat car train Hot, humid, miserable. Then once I got to the west side of West coast, they caught a boat again and then came up to San Francisco. From there my great grandfather,

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Baptista Gambon et he found work in San Francisco guard me a lot of gardens, and in those days people were raising their own vegetables, things like that. And he worked for a while in San Francisco, in the gardening industry. From there he moved up the coast

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to humble in that area, worked there for a year to then move back down in this area. Closer Irish Beach in that area and a saved his money. Work hard until finally he was able to Lisa ranch at least a ranch with his brother and the

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two of them lease that ranch for two years. And then the brother went out on his own, and my great grandfather stayed there and fill the end of the lease, which was a 10 year lease. And then, from there, he least another ranch. And then, from

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there it finally bought himself a ranch out along the coast. Interesting fact. This would be my great great grandmother. Ah, her father, Paul Daito, and moved about the same time here. He also ended up in San Francisco, worked and then he came up the coast and

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work on a dairy on the coast. And I bought himself a ranch around to malice in that area, airy there to malas, uh, Salmon Creek area there. And this this one morning, my great grandfather, Baptista hey was fixing fence and on the other side of the

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fence was all data, and he was fixing fence and they met their says. Well, says, uh, you got to congratulate me this morning. I just My wife just had a baby boy and pull says, Well, he says, You got to congratulate me. My wife just had

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a baby girl this morning. So here they were working together and went, you know, box. Some 20 years later, those two you got married as my grandfather and grandmother, Sylvia Gammon, Amy and Evelina. The kind of just incident that happened. That's kind of kind of funny

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that that happened. But by getting along, getting on with the story. Uh uh, Baptista. Hey, started his own dairy. I have had a five Children, I believe, or six Children and one which is my my grandfather, Silvio gambling any Which of the story is going to

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go on Mawr Sylvia Flight uh, my great grandfather retired and moved to Petaluma. And Silvio, his son, took over the dairy at that time out. Ah, around salmon cryptic that that time Like to show you a little picture that you can pass around. And look, this

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is the life A dairy here years ago and in the early 1919 hundreds. And I call this picture the okay, Dairy corral. It just You can pass that around the okay. Dairy Carell That they would. They were milking by hand. At that time, each person probably

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had about 30 cows, 30 to 35 cows that they would tend to. They raise their own hey and known pasture. And the fellas that were doing the Milken, they would have to cut their own. Hey, they sold their own. Hey! And then they milk. That was

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that was there drop at that time, pay for them. They got 25 to $30 a month in food, meals, room and board and everything. And moat. Most of those. Those fellas, they save their money. And a lot of them ended up ending up buying their own

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ranchers late later on. In later years. No, my grandfather, Uh, as I said, married Everly and And they have They had one of the theories out there. Anna. Around 1914 he bought a ranch down in Lakeville, which is the branch that I am presently in my

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son life. Grandkids. We're on right now. This was about the same time. Oh, I should I should regress a little bit because it is an interesting story. When they were up along the coast in a dairy industry at that time, their income was was the butter,

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the butter trade. They would send their butter down to San Francisco. The schooners would come up along the coast and they would set up a flag and s so they could see that the scooter was woodland at that place. And then they would take their their

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butter down to the ship and loaded on ships. They sold it to ah, three fellas that owned like a brokerage house in San Francisco and then distributed the butter from there. Their butter, they it was they would take the milk, put it on big tables, let

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the cream rise to the top. Then there was give skim the cream off and they would work it the cream butter fat and work it and make butter out of it. And then this was all daily routine and that butter was shipped every other day because

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at that time there was really no refrigeration or anything to to, uh, save the butter. A little later on a Z, my grandfather moved down into Penn Luminaria. In 1914 the butter was made a little different. The butter was in packed into £860 barrels, and that

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butter was work with soul. Another another things so it would preserve the butter at that time because then they could keep it longer because of the trade. In San Francisco, they didn't want butter just certain months out of the year. They wanted it all year long

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and back. In those days, the deary's they only melt the cows when they had the grass to feed him. So three months out of the year, there was no grass to feed him, so the dairymen went on vacation. That was their time of vacation. So anyway,

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as I said, they wanted to get a trade in of butter year round in San Francisco. So one way was doing it was packing it in £860 barrels, which would give it in an extended life so they could keep a shipping it in there. Then, about

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eight, 1913 the brokerage people from San Francisco, they wanted to, uh, try up the business. So they had a year around, and they approached my grandfather and they asked him if they would he would be willing with other dairymen in this area to build a plant

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here in Petaluma and they would help with the capital expenditures. And if he could sign up enough of a dairymen, guarantee them Excuse me to make the butter for San Francisco. And, uh, it was kind of a trying time because expenses, you know, you had dairymen

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themselves. They had to put up $5 account to join this this coop to guarantee the the butter to the brokers in San Francisco in which, at that time, then the brokers would guarantee them a market. Uh, it was fought very heavenly, heavenly by other dairymen at

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that time, because they didn't want to see the coop tie up all that that product in San Francisco. So there was dairymen out fighting Dairymen. Don't sign up. You sign up, I'll pay you not to sign up. And it was quite a little process going on.

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We even they even got the pendulum of City Council involved at that time to they got the city Council of slang, some type of a decree. We don't want you in Petaluma, but they were able to work, work it all out. So the city Council finally

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said to go ahead and then they bought the property. At that time was not downtown Petaluma. It is now. But at that time it was not downtown Petaluma. They bought the property there in Harper Street. At that time, there was, uh I think it's Hopper. Yeah,

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I think at that time there was there was, like, a small slaughterhouse that somebody owned there. And that's where they converted that property. They bought it and converted and built the pendulum of cooperative cremini. Not Hopper going, going where the creamery is today. Uh, Kentucky and

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whatever the Cross Creek. So that that's how the crew me there 1st 1st got originally started. My grandfather, it was, ah, one of the first original directors and then He was president director for about 25 years of the co op there. No, I see some pictures

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around here, and we've got some real confusion. And, uh, my a lot of what I had ever heard. He was the first president, and there's a picture of a fellow by the name of Hinshaw. However, my recollection and everything I read Mr Henshaw was the first

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manager. He was a manager. Not not He was not a for the first director. And a Mr Henshaw worked there for three or four years. And he ended up leaving as a manager became a city councilman at that time there. So and so then, at that

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time, I think one of the other Kareem Rees, had somebody that was selling better in the in San Francisco. And there was they were having problems making butter and Petaluma. And they sent him up toe Petaluma to help with the butter making, and he helped out.

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And he stayed. Georgia gone, Darryl at that time there and they stayed for I don't know how many years, but for many, many years at that time there, uh, the creamery grew. Eventually, Cree went into the besides the butter making that was done that they grew

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into making the home whole mount the bottle milk. They got into cheese and many of the other products and and, uh, then fine. And they had their first there. First, uh, trademark was the clover label that you see all over. That was the first trademark was

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there was out of the pendulum, a cooperative creameries. My grandfather, as I said, was quite involved in the in getting involved in the in the dairy industry. Besides, being a dairymen is very involved in the politics on things like that. And as was his son, Ray

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Gambon, any and Jim's, Jim's dad and Ray was very involved. He was one of the fellows that was very instrumental in drafting and getting the the 1969 and all its milk out. Bill passed for this for the Dairymen of California, which is probably one of the

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most important dairy acts. It was involved to keep the dairy industry functioning in and being on a level playing field with dairymen and processors and such seal the gills. Other son was a director on the board for for 15 years or So I got involved. I

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was a director on the board for about 50 years. Uh, I got involved in the Advertising and National Dairy Board Milk Advisory Board. My wife was on the national dairy Board. So a lot of involvement Art. My son now is he's involved in the Bury her

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testing association Holstein Association, and he's also representative for the Dairy on the Big Board. So a lot a lot of involvement through the years with people on the gabardine decide getting involved to try to help keep the very industry efficient and moving on the right track

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is Ah, as I said right now, we've been on the dearie since 1914 Uh, in 1925 Had a big fire down there. The fire burnt all the dairy. Everything. The only thing left standing was was a house that was saved. They poured water on the house.

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And so what? That at that time, my grandfather went to Qatada, which is actually now we're Rohner Park is located. There was a no race track up there. They used to race automobiles and motorcycles here. It was torn down, dilapidated. He bought all the lumber up

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there had the lumber sent down to the ranch. They came in with the the next day with some cement. All the neighbors came in and they built in about about 34 days. They built a whole new facility, a new modern day militant. Warn the sanitation equipment

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clean up in the whole works in about in about a week down there. You know, it was kind of neat to see the way the neighbors came and helped out. Just to keep every keep us going like that. No. As as I said, I'm took over

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from my father, Earl, that took over from his dad. Silvio Paul Gamberini. He moved up to Lake County. Had a dairy up there. He's since retired Jim's dad. Uh, he had a dairy on old adobe there, man. Uh, and gyms now got Jim had had a

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dairy up until about a year ago of APL. Intro to Jim sold out there. So Jim says this time he retired, too, right? And I have the dairy. Well, I should say I have the dairy now. I work for my son. He has a very now

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on on Lakeville Highway, and he's got three girls and, uh, the three girls were now getting interested in the dairy. They're showing their their cows of affair coming up in Pell, Lumen Right now, There, they're clipping them and they're they're leading him in training him and

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and, uh and that takes us through the six generations of the Gambia Ninis that were involved in the dairy industry and still are today and a little bit about the history of the pillow mcw op that my grandfather helped start and some of the changes there.

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Couple other interesting facts about the dairy industry in Ireland was asking me this the other day about it. What changed it or what had a really big impact. And the deer, the dairy industry over the years milking 35 cows per person by hand, Out, out in

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the open, You time to a post and take a bucket. And Malcolm there, What are some of the big changes? Of course. You know the the vacuum pumps. That was one of the big changes on milking equipment that that helped modernize the dairy where you could

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melt so many cows. Another big fact was the cooling of the milk, the refrigeration. Frank Glacier has a an old type of cooler over here that you all got to stop after I'm done and look at all the displays because there's some really neat displays here.

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11 of the big things. I think the really changed. The dairy industry has to do with kind of a combination of ah ai artificial insemination of the cows. You were able to get the updated and best genetics in the whole world and breed your cows to

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it at the same time. Well, they started looking at the feeds that we fed the cows. Most people now have ah nutritional ist. Nutritionists will take the feed. Break it down. What does that feed contain? The proteins, the energies, all the vitamins and everything. And we

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got to know how to feed the cows, the right, the right proteins, the right energies and the cow. Because she now had the right, genetics was able to respond cows or given 44 gallons a day all of a sudden were able to give him the right

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types of feed the right types of nutrition which was now available. The bypass protein the grains made from that were from the distilleries, the brains, air greats, source of protein. And in all of a sudden, we were feeding the callous, the right combination of proteins, the

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right vitamins. Their health was better, and they were go from four gowns all way up to 10 gallons and in within two year period of time. Course that been help the dairy industry. Now, all of sudden, we got too much milk. So So all of a

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sudden, now we haven't sell more. Mel, we almost got too efficient for our own self. But those are some of just a couple of the really big changes that that I see the health nutrition of the cows that we now perform on account to keep him

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healthy with the better feeds. If they're short on the vitamin, you can feed him a vitamin. You can keep him healthy so their health is so much better now. That's helped out on the production end of it, too. And that is always helping out more and

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more. And then the last thing at the six generations My son, we've come. We made the big gamut. Now we've come around full 360 degrees when the when the dairy industry first started in this area, it was all over again. It was all organic. We have

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now made the transition. We're back to organic again now. And, uh, most of it is taken care of the cows and the health of the cows is what makes a big, big transition. So what works questions or things that you can tell me that that I

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didn't know or correct me? Yes, it's you got it. Should it should ask my son The question. The question was, How do how do you become organic or what's what's involved? To be certified to be organic? It's It's a very time consuming project. You have to

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have your animals certified. You have to have your your property certified and to get it certified that there's Ah National Very Certification Board and they have all the rules and regulations that you have to abide by and they will come out. You have to have ah

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like for the pasture you cannot have sprayed in the last three years, anything that is not organic. On that pasture for weed control, we had to go back to the whole basically the whole to get. Get rid of weeds. You receded, you receive it. Which certified,

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See certified clover, certified right or whatever. And then after three years, even the fertilizer has to be organic. Put on it. You can get a certification for your pasture for your cows. After three year period. That's the first part. Then you gotta get your heard. Sure,

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if I you heard to certify You can't use any any any type of antibiotics. It all it's just not allowed. And people say, Well, what have you got? A real sick cow. Yes, you can. You can treat that cow to savor, but she is no more

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organic. You cannot have her inner heard anymore. She has to be gone. So it in a If you try to go through and, uh, every day and see what what the veterinarians and the pharmaceuticals or putting out as far as to try to keep the animals

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healthy. You've gotta check every one of those products to make sure it's certified organic and can be used every every blade of grass alfalfa owed. Hey are feats that are brought in to be fed to the animals. They have to be come with a certified organic

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label with it that shows that it was grown organic. It's a process that I'm glad my son did it. I'm not sure I have the patience to do it, and it's an ongoing. It's an ongoing daily thing, and you've got to be researched recertified Every year.

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You've got to get a national certification. You got to get a state certification in a county certification and and they will come through and check all your records every year to make sure you account for every blade of grass. And anything that you do treat these

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animals with is organic. And I say what you can treat him with certain types of aspirin you can give him, but and there's other things you can treat him with. But they are all organic, and they have to be made. Sure. So basically that's that's a

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process. Yes, well, you made me wonder what it takes now. Is education to be a dairy farm compared to live with your generation ago? No, You're years ago. I went I went to, uh, like, will you after high school, late Bill, you is is where I

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would where I work today, I I think it's important that the young dairymen that they're gonna be dairymen for their future. They have to go to college. They got they got to be schooled number one in business, right? Right off the bat. It's It's a business

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is a big, expensive business right now. They need the business knowledge they can get. They gotta be you higher nutritional lists. But you've gotta have some type of basic background in nutrition. You gotta have the basic background on on on on a cattle And and then

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I think the third or the fourth thing, too, is my going to college that what is important is that is the other people they meet in college, their their contacts, business people that go into business people to go into the nutritional work. Now some of them

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go into, ah, government dairy work. And I think just meeting those people and keeping contact keeps you updated on what's happening. And it's an invaluable source of information toe help. You run a dairy business? Definitely they I think they should go to college. Yeah, and very

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always gambling. Just a combination of Gambon e like Villar No, it was not always called gam. Like, uh uh, we we kind of got that prefix when we started getting into the registered Holstein business. We have registered cattle on the end, so we register rolls cattle

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under gambling. Why the name GAM Lake? It's part from gambling any. And we had a big, big reservoir dam built some years back on the property for water. And so we just combine the two names. That's how the name gambling came about. Well, people, people came

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out passion people. Did they have a daily delivery that Butters get away in Khowst? Ship down, Right? Uh, the combination they wanted today a daily delivery, but also they wanted to tie up enough butter because they're butter consumption in San Francisco. What? The population had grown

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so big. So they wanted They wanted to make sure they had enough butter to keep that to keep their contracts. And and the people in butter in San Francisco don't worry about quality quality would surely quality would be another. Another product. In fact, at that time,

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uh, most of Gary start switching over to Milken 12 months out of the year. So they did have fresh product to guarantee of them. And at that time you went to here. That's correct. Yeah, I kind of think I'd like to go back to that nine

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month. Millikan myself don't work. And when did the separator, instead of giving one of separator come in in the early 19 hundreds? And if you, before you leave your there's no separator over here, they do over 100 separator over here, just like that happening, right? That

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there, you see with the scream writhe Probably about build. Asked when the separator if you didn't hear the question when the separator come into being, I think one of the interesting new machinery I see now is, uh and I Well, it's been in about probably 10

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years now, and they just they take a separated, melt the cream, and they put the cream in into a big bat. And on the other end, there's a tube about that big, and it comes out butter. It is unreal. Yeah, yeah, just in one end and

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they keep adding, adding the cream. And on the other end, it comes out buttered. It's just butter. Yeah, it's interesting market. How big is the biggest heard in California. And what is the average heard in this area? Oh, Calif. Killer. California average is probably 550 cows,

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I say. Maybe 600. That's all California. The average in this area here. I'm gonna I'd say about 350 cows. What's the largest in the California? About 5000. I think it's worn out. What's What's larger shirt in California? 15,000. What? I don't want to be Gallo. No,

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no getting that, Larry. But that that facility would you look at it? E. I know Texas has a 15,000 cow dairy, you know, But there's a lot of room in Texas to put in the lead up to a large yes bill. Sure, you know city for

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leaving you with There, there's there is a a little card cartoon and Anna. It shows a picture of a cow, and it shows a water speaking on the back and in the cartoon says we have to ask SG Gambon any if that's cream or milk or

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what? Yeah, today's world on the generation stills there. Quite a few of the dairies are still are still here. Uh, what? Ah, different generation. The court is, you know, in some of those for a long time. What is interesting is, if you look back

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through the dairy herd Testing Association, go back 2025 years, something like that. And there was about 35,000 cows being tested at that time. I think right now, that's still around 32,000. Something like that. Congregated Mawr on less Berries, Just just bigger dairies. But the count numbers.

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I stayed pretty pretty stable over all those years. Yeah, but I'll tell you one thing, Those those 3500 cows put out a lot more milk than they did 20 years ago. The volume is way out round. Oh, yeah. Margaret wants to know what's the most efficient

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barrier? Uh, tripe born for milking it. I don't know that if you're a large dairy, you gotta have ah, large round circle or or two or three milking. There all have their own a set of ah, efficiency. And like that depends how much money you want

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to spend and whether you want it. Mawr labor free or labor intense. So it's kind of up to the individual dairies to build a type of Gary that he thinks will fit his specifics. Situation, Um, along those lines. What's a herringbone barn? I've come across that

00:42:29.230 - 00:42:49.290

a herringbone born, uh, you have you have? It's a raise Born. In other words, the cows on both side of you are raise your sitting in a pet. And instead of being one cow behind the other like this, a herringbone, the cows, our got half of

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their body alongside of the other cow. And they're they're writers still available that it's real close to you like that. But you can put more cows in the same in the same area. They're kind of it at mangle is what they what. They are another sort

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of maybe technology question. Technol. Um, so in preparation, we have cookies later. Um, so I got milk and I thought I'd get organic milk. And so this comes from Strauss and are showing it to Margaret, and she says, Look, it's not homogenized. So is this how

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milk would have typically come to your home with? We need scoop off the creamer. It's non homogenized, And, uh, you can't get it's organic so so you can get it non homogeneous and the cream will raise to the top. Just about all the milky by and

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the superstores are like that. It's homogenized. The milk is not be. But if it's met in a high high pressure and it mixes the the butterfat, uh, modules in with the rest of the milk and then they don't They don't separate anymore. So should I shake

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that before service? Why would you want cream on your Berries or calm yourself like that? Yes, because I noticed them. You know, we're gonna have milk tasting here, cause I also got a some organic milk from clover That's in a carton. So there's this problem. I

00:44:24.990 - 00:44:46.790

mean, is all organic milk non homogenized? No. No, I would say most of it is for marginalized. Most of it is okay. Yeah, great to that. You know, now I should have a contest. You got the milk Aaron creams right there. What percentage of butterfat way?

00:44:47.440 - 00:45:36.910

Probably around 35%. Jim here is over. It's more outstanding and criminal. My my way. Interesting fact is you buy butter. Just about everybody buys butter and they look at it. Well, something's wrong with this better. It's It's white yellow is actually a

00:45:36.920 - 00:45:59.870

coloring may add the butter. It's actually color except for some of the girls. Ease on. They had they had the color in it already got one interesting fact. If I confined, it fit here. And this is going back in the early 19 hundreds. Uh, and when

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they were first shipping to melt down into San Francisco, I got Oh, here it is. But at that time, this is in the, uh, Drew. In the 18 nineties, butter was selling for 10 cents a pound. Hogs they were selling for 2.5 cents a pound cafs

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2.5 cents a pound and a dairy cow was $20. If you wanted to buy, that's 18 9 But then look at the wages. What everything else is what it was. There's your No, I mean, did you just go to milk now? Are you also produce butter

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made from dominating? Ah, are our milk right now? Franken and our smell way Sell it to a broker in Southern California and And that broke herself to Ah, it goes into ah, Safeway organic milk. It goes into Ah rock few dairy organic milk they also send

00:47:10.290 - 00:47:32.760

it to, Ah, organic manufacturing plant down around Turlock. In that area there it's gone back Teoh Organic Plant and Utah one time, So it kind of goes wherever it's needed after and so it could be in fluid milk. It could be in butter. Could be in

00:47:32.760 - 00:48:07.120

context. Siege could be in yogurt wherever, wherever it's needed. Yes, you know, process of any salt adding solid to okay, yes, uh, from years back and I don't know the exact year Ralph might be able to help me on that, but they were getting mawr and

00:48:07.120 - 00:48:29.850

mawr skim milks with less butter fat in it, and the milk was losing the nutritional value of the standard milk. So they passed the law in California, and they added back solids non fat, which God gave back the nutritional value of milk as what it was

00:48:29.850 - 00:48:51.590

before. So they have. They have to have a total, uh, milk that has a combination. I think it's 11% solids and butter fat in it. And it was for the nutritional value is why it was done, especially for for the school kids. The skim milk. They

00:48:51.600 - 00:49:30.350

just don't have the nutritional value. So they added back the solids. Non fact that brought back the total solids in that regular milk. I remember some years ago tastes lousy. Wait, that's why it was done. Oh, good. I like. Then I can bluff you. That would

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have a store. What? We milk, we melt based. You want to know our end of the milking? Uh uh. We melt twice a day, like on a 12 hour interval period. And we have a big storage tank, and that storage tank hole is refrigerated and it

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cools on meltdown. And they pick our milk up every other day, and then they send it to Southern California. A lot of the dairies will have a pick up every day. It's close way. No, the own. Aside from that there, five want milk. I buy it

00:50:14.820 - 00:50:35.060

and I go by my butter Go by my cream. We're not We're not allowed. Teoh, drink our own milk. Yeah. No, it's not because it hasn't been pasteurized. Because if you could take it out of the tank, somebody else can take it out of the tank.

00:50:35.370 - 00:50:59.600

And there's a liability there. No, I can still sneak it out Yes. You mentioned were Tester. What is the tester testing for? How often did they come and where does he? My son Frank I should make him answer this question because he was it was president

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of the Testing Association or local Testing Association. But we have ah certified person that comes out and he takes Ah, measurement are actually goes through meter. He brings meters with him and the morning milk and afternoon milk. Is it measures? Trust me, the gallons of milk

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or pounds the melt. So we know exactly how many pounds of melt each cow gives a day, then that Belka staying to the central lab that belongs to the testing association. And then they they break that down. They break that milk down, I say break it

00:51:39.910 - 00:52:00.870

down. They analyzes through spectroscope and you end up with how much butterfat that cow gives. How much solids at cal gives how much solid number the protein and then it does some other tests for us. Test the the health of the milk somatic cell cell counts

00:52:00.870 - 00:52:19.010

and like that for that milk. So we know every month exactly how much that cow is producing, and we configure back, according Toa. We get paid on the different components so we can figure out if she's how much we're going to feed her, whether she should

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keep her in the herd, whether we should breed her back. Or so. That's what the testing association does valuable in for information. Yes, get depending on again the size of the born and like that. But usually they try to figure efficiency if you can. If you

00:52:47.260 - 00:53:12.000

can milk a 100 cows an hour, about 100 cows an hour is an efficient born to milk. So if you got ah, 400 cows, you know, four hours or something like that, that's just the milking procedure. Now you got prepping. You've got, you know, and cleanup,

00:53:12.000 - 00:53:46.110

sanitation and everything. But the milking town, it takes about about 8 to 10 minutes to milk account. What it takes is part of that. Uh, no, we can't way. Can't sell. It is wrong. Melt. You can't. I think there's only one or two dairies that sell

00:53:46.110 - 00:54:13.320

raw milk now in in California, and they have rules and regulations as farce. Sanitation and counts is such to sell that milk. Ah, personally, don't buy that. There's too big of a liability being wrong. Just being wrong. Mouth. There's too big of, ah liability there on

00:54:13.320 - 00:54:38.510

that for me. Our arses pasteurized the important thing, Yeah, pasteurized. It's heated up to Ah, a certain amount of degrees for so many seconds it that basically kills any pathogens or bacteria or anything that might happen to be in the milk. So I just I think

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you should stay away from raw milk. You're just taking a chance. Yeah, And I know the people that sell that are really gonna be sending me a letter. But that's my belief. Yes. Party. How much? How much water? I mean, if you have 15,000 cow, you

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must have tremendous. A cow will drink, say, 40 gallons of water a day. That's per per cow. And then, if you want to figure on that, you have ah, washing of the equipment you have. Ah, no washing the facilities and everything. And if you never mean

00:55:30.760 - 00:55:53.270

here, you've got having start water. Oh, yes. Yes. Before you build, you better have water. Yeah, we were talking in the day on your property. You have with, uh, back in the in the drought. I think in the 70 69. 70 we had a to three

00:55:53.270 - 00:56:14.040

years of drought here. And, uh and we were We had we were hauling water because we didn't have our reservoir. It just dried up, our springs dried up and we had a whole water. We haul water because we couldn't get the well drinker, the well driller

00:56:14.230 - 00:56:36.840

out in time to drill. And so we wait, hold water for about no six months or something like that. And we finally got the will, uh, person out less Peterson, King and Douglas. Well, and they were down almost just above the marsh and Lakeville Highway and

00:56:36.840 - 00:56:56.280

and they they were putting that that well down and it was getting in tow in a like muck mud, you know, And it was just and every time which I added up the price another Friday and they got down to 600 feet in ah, in a

00:56:56.630 - 00:57:13.450

Or I should say they got down to about 500 feet and less. Peterson comes up and he says, How how much further do you want to go? And I says I have to go at least 600 because I believe at that time Sleepy Hollow had a

00:57:13.680 - 00:57:31.890

A Well, down there, there was 600 feet and flaky knees. So I told him to stop it 600 feet. And, uh And so that night when they left, which was about about five o'clock, I walk down to the well, I hadn't heard anything. And I'm looking

00:57:31.890 - 00:57:44.500

at the well and there's water coming up out of the will. And I said, Wait a minute, they don't put that much water in the well for digging. And it was coming up and coming up. I fall unless, Peterson that you get back here and tap

00:57:44.510 - 00:58:04.760

that put a cup or something On top of that, I need that water. Uh, and, uh, we had an artesian Well, we hit about 30 foot of gravel down around 600 feet. But the interesting thing about it was you were asking about the aquifer. There was

00:58:04.900 - 00:58:25.630

some time, uh, after that they had put a die in the water up, but the guy's er's and that got in that water that Di flowed out down in down here. Lakeville in that area down there. So we have a knock over that comes from the

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Geiser. The water's hot, I say hot! It's coming out of the ground around 68 degrees. It was art Asian for quite a few years. It's It's full of iron and bore on an alkali and all those things that air conducive up in up in the guise

00:58:43.620 - 00:59:04.660

Er's up there so that that's just I hope there's no worth break down. No, I I got built. Maybe you would know, Uh, some years back, uh, my father in law showed me a map, and I'm talking back into the eight. This map was drawn any

00:59:04.660 - 00:59:26.770

18 50 70 something like that. According engineer Matt. And it showed that the Russian River emptied out through the pet through the pendulum a river that was a natural flow of the Russian River. And it was some years after that they said maybe the 1906 earthquake

00:59:26.770 - 01:00:02.020

or something that it was diverted up a salmon creek, that area. But I've never I can't find that, Matt. Maybe you know, if that is truth or not. Well, I think you but earlier now. Okay. Okay. There. State. Okay. Yeah, That's but they're running for que

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Here. I thought that was interesting. No trace. You're 56 I know the court is Or saving families contrary. Maroni's just like two people. I would like Teoh think George and Margaret to Margaret. Where are you back there? She's

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been very helpful as of Jim and Elsie, Um, with putting as I mentioned, gathering materials about their families that are on display here, but also answering questions such as? You know what's homogenized? Non Dimanche eyes open support. Um, so we have a little present for you

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for your coffee table Share with your family. Historic photos of Sonoma County and thank you. It's a good thing I got it. Sign the author author is here, and he has already for you. That's really nice. So now I'm gonna I'm gonna shake up the milk

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or mix it. Um all right. I heard that. Used to have a little spoons, actually, Loretta splotchy has, uh, has one on display back there from born three. Cute little thing that I guess you would you would, um you would scoop you cream off for your

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milk, but all stars, and then we've got homemade cookies and I want you to feel Frida, visit and check out the exhibit and stay as long as you like. And please, do you sign our guestbook? Because every person who walks in this building is important for

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